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Oh Dear. It's All Down To ..
Old white racists looking backwards not forwards to blame for Brexit.
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It does frustrate me so when the 'great and the good' (in their eyes at any rate) tell us why we did what we did.
If this is the crap they are spouting, they have no idea why people voted leave. It is just their own justification and propaganda to make vulnerable people think they are wrong for the wrong reasons.
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It does frustrate me so when the 'great and the good' (in their eyes at any rate) tell us why we did what we did.
If this is the crap they are spouting, they have no idea why people voted leave. It is just their own justification and propaganda to make vulnerable people think they are wrong for the wrong reasons.
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"...it then seems to me to be presumptuous in the extreme for NJ to go on to explain why *he* thinks the electorate voted the way it did."
Mine was just a passing remark, Jim. I was not looking to use it as justification to have the result of the referendum annulled or overturned, or to have Brexit so diluted as to be meaningless as was The Good Doctor.
"If as the old windbag wants and we have another vote which goes his way, will he let us have a third vote to please us leavers ?"
Not a chance. If there was a second referendum which resulted in a "remain" vote it would be seen as "...a complete justification to halt Brexit in the realisation that the stupid, racist electorate had finally come to its senses".
Mine was just a passing remark, Jim. I was not looking to use it as justification to have the result of the referendum annulled or overturned, or to have Brexit so diluted as to be meaningless as was The Good Doctor.
"If as the old windbag wants and we have another vote which goes his way, will he let us have a third vote to please us leavers ?"
Not a chance. If there was a second referendum which resulted in a "remain" vote it would be seen as "...a complete justification to halt Brexit in the realisation that the stupid, racist electorate had finally come to its senses".
To be sure, NJ, it also matters rather a lot more that Vince Cable is being overly assertive (and more than a little offensive) than whatever you offer as a reason. That's not meant to dismiss your opinion, but hopefully puts my criticism in better context. If he's being a prat then it's (at least theoretically) more serious, just by nature of his role as leader of a political party.
The reasons why the 'older' voters are looking for an exit from the EU are perfectly simple.
By virtue of their age, they remember the Common Market that Britain joined, and its basis in trade and beneficial exchanges of goods and services. They have seen that eroded into a European State that has its unelected officials passing laws affecting British citizens, its immigration systems unable to stop a tide of illegal migration, and the gradual erosion of the beneficial trade agreements that Britain signed up to originally.
If you have always lived with the EU in its present state, it's easy to accept it as simply being the way things are. The older voters remember how things were, and that what they want back - their sovereignty, their legal system, and their borders.
If Me Cable wants to pretend that it is anything to do with his perverse and racist notions of Empire-based 'nostalgia', then he is a bigger fool than he appears - difficult, but, it seems, possible.
By virtue of their age, they remember the Common Market that Britain joined, and its basis in trade and beneficial exchanges of goods and services. They have seen that eroded into a European State that has its unelected officials passing laws affecting British citizens, its immigration systems unable to stop a tide of illegal migration, and the gradual erosion of the beneficial trade agreements that Britain signed up to originally.
If you have always lived with the EU in its present state, it's easy to accept it as simply being the way things are. The older voters remember how things were, and that what they want back - their sovereignty, their legal system, and their borders.
If Me Cable wants to pretend that it is anything to do with his perverse and racist notions of Empire-based 'nostalgia', then he is a bigger fool than he appears - difficult, but, it seems, possible.
