Agent Cob Shows His Loyalty Too ....err Enyone But Britain, Again!

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-would-give-british-museums-elgin-marbles-back-to-greece-11393330

[ToraToraTora]

QM: "TTT is a great champion of the Czech spy who claimed to have recruited Mr Corbyn and named him COB, despite the plain fact that there is not a single shred of evidence that he succeeded in doing any such thing" - not a fan as such but grateful for the information.
"Perhaps TTT is unaware that the Czech involved also claimed to have helped organise the Live Aid and Free Nelson Mandela concerts in the 1980s!" -
Well I suppose live aid bought some new Rolls Royces for African despots, and the known terrorist Rolihlahla Mandela was freed but I fail to see how that is relevant to COB and his handler.
"Given that claim, it is obvious that he is a fantasist and that he...and TTT...find it easy to believe the most obvious nonsense!"
Just what is in the public eye QM

[Gromit]

enfolding = emboldening

[dannyk13]

Gromit, works for me 14.36

[Jackdaw33]

Life is too short for that malarkey. AB missed a great opportunity to sort this out when they revamped the site. The [i] business only works once within a post anyway.

Should that be ab? I would hate to be accused of shouting!

[dannyk13]

Jack, your sarcasm does you no favours.By the way I side I was an octogenarian, I did not mention the word wise.

[youngmafbog]

As a Quinquagenarian please all feel free to cal me "sonny" it's much better than "old git" as the saucepans and trouble refer to me !

[Quizmonster]

So, TTT, still no sign of anything that could conceivably be called "evidence" from you that Mr Corbyn was ever an agent working for the Czech security/intelligence agencies. All you have remains the claim by a proven Czech fantasist...that's someone who makes stuff up...that he did recruit him. If that truly IS all you've got, then you're simply making my point for me.

[youngmafbog]

QM, the Czech "secret service" say they hold a file on him but wanted COB's authority for it to be released.

He refused so I'm sorry but he brings all this down on himself.

[scooping]

There was an idea several years ago that we make an exact copy of the marbles and give the originals back to Greece. Maybe that's a compromise though would set a precedent.

[Quizmonster]

And what would be wrong with "setting a precedent" in the matter of giving things we effectively "looted" back to the people they belonged - and still ought to belong - to?

[gulliver1]

Anyone on here fancy a game of marbles, no gob stoppers and no steelies
allowed. OK .

[Gromit]

YMB,
The COB file is free for anyone to peruse, and the Daily Mail have done just that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5419901/The-Corbyn-Files-Czech-secret-service-dossier.html

Nothing incriminating though.

[ichkeria]

I’m afraid I’m with Corbyn on this one

[Togo]

If we sent them back......would the Germans seize them as part repayment of the Greek debt to the EUSSRzone?

[Quizmonster]

Youngmafbog, as Gromit has pointed out, there is nothing incriminating in the file you refer to. Even the Daily Mail has examined it. Now, wouldn't you think that, if there seriously was any actual evidence against Mr Corbyn, they, of all papers would have blazoned that evidence on the front page? They haven't!

Quite apart from that, it is not part of the English legal system for an accused to have to prove his innocence, but only for those accusing him to prove his guilt. Accordingly, why would you expect the man to do otherwise than refuse to reveal documents which - as recognised above - are freely available anyway?

Basically, TTT's and your case here is shot full of holes and utterly groundless and it's high time you acknowledged that!

[Togo]

//Quite apart from that, it is not part of the English legal system for an accused to have to prove his innocence, but only for those accusing him to prove his guilt//

Are you sure about that? Have we not had a raft of presumed guilty immediately as long as someone makes the accusation, and plod deems the "witness" credible?

[zebo]

We were told by our guide on the Acropolis, who was saying they should be returned, yadder yadder yadder, that those left behind had been destroyed by either the marauding Turks or the toxic Athens air, so we seem to have done the world a favour by looking after them. Will he, the Clooney woman, the Greeks and all the others on this bandwagon be also demanding that Germany returns its antiquities, the Pergamon Museum? Maybe the Greeks don't want to upset the German cash cow.

[Quizmonster]

"Presumed guilty" is not a valid verdict in English courts, though it is frequently deemed an acceptable viewpoint by the right-wing press reporting on Labour leaders!

Michael Foot, for example, took a Rupert Murdoch paper to court for libel in similar circumstances and - when he won his case - he used the Murdoch money to buy an expensive, new kitchen. He delighted in showing it off to visitors for years, pointing out how he had come by the money to pay for it! I'm only saddened that Mr Corbyn didn't do the same thing with this nonsense.

[gulliver1]

Think after reading all the replies to this post , one can only conclude that both TTT,and YMB are very confused.

[ludwig]

Corbyn obviously wasn't a spy. I suspect they had a look and quickly realised he'd be of no use to them.