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A desperate attempt to try to rid themselves of some of that bad press? Or an informative and educational public forum?
A desperate attempt to try to rid themselves of some of that bad press? Or an informative and educational public forum?
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I find it very sad that McD's has "gone healthy". If i want healthy stuff, i'll buy it from the supermarket or greengrocers. But if i'm out and i'm hungry and i want food, i'll occasionally go into McD's or BK and if i do.....i want the unhealthiest tripple burger you can get.
I don't want to go into a fast food shop and sit there eating an apple with a bottle of water....i want fat and grease and loads of calories. If you don't like that sort of thing, go to M&S.
Rant over !!!
I don't want to go into a fast food shop and sit there eating an apple with a bottle of water....i want fat and grease and loads of calories. If you don't like that sort of thing, go to M&S.
Rant over !!!
To be honest it's a load of rubbish, just looked at a few of the "questions" and they have just give stock replies to most of them.
For example plenty of people are asking where the beef comes from, they then spew out an answer which doesn't actually tell you anything but tries to turn the question around and come out with a useless statistic of 70% of our food budget goes on British produce.
There is another which asks about battery hens raised for chicken nuggets, again a load of spurious facts which don't answer the question directly.
Pretty much every question says how they are within the law of the land, effectively trying to get the idea across they are doing nothing wrong, legally maybe, morally I'm not so sure.
For example plenty of people are asking where the beef comes from, they then spew out an answer which doesn't actually tell you anything but tries to turn the question around and come out with a useless statistic of 70% of our food budget goes on British produce.
There is another which asks about battery hens raised for chicken nuggets, again a load of spurious facts which don't answer the question directly.
Pretty much every question says how they are within the law of the land, effectively trying to get the idea across they are doing nothing wrong, legally maybe, morally I'm not so sure.
I'm with you, WoWo, I felt that a lot of the answers were vague and missed the point. I got a bit carried away and posted 6 questions of my own this morning!! Mostly to do with the McDonald's reputation, including why they feel the need to open restaurants in developing countries like Africa when poverty & starvation are still major issues.
It's more the first thing you said - an attempt to turn some of the bad press around. The fact is, sales are down - for whatever reason - and while I'm sure they're not about to go bankrupt anytime soon, they want to try to engage with the public that they see are deserting them. But some of the responses are classic PR hedging, sounding superficially reasonable but when you delve deeper you see they've actually evaded addressing the question directly - like politicians' answers.
hammerman, your rant is unfounded - McD's haven't "gone healthy" as such. They're offering healthier options than before but the fat-ridden burgers etc are all still there so it shouldn't upset your normal lard-ingesting habits when you get the urge.
Personally, when I desire some fat with extra fat on the side, there are much better places, with infinitely better quality lard, that I prefer, and in which I don't feel so stained or out-of-place.
hammerman, your rant is unfounded - McD's haven't "gone healthy" as such. They're offering healthier options than before but the fat-ridden burgers etc are all still there so it shouldn't upset your normal lard-ingesting habits when you get the urge.
Personally, when I desire some fat with extra fat on the side, there are much better places, with infinitely better quality lard, that I prefer, and in which I don't feel so stained or out-of-place.
I do actually support my local lard supplier rather than the Corporate entity. I prefer my local greasy spoon caff, thank you very much! I haven't eaten a McDonalds or Burger King for about 4 years now, purely because of their global domination and the junk that they churn out. I don't mind eating fatty foods occasionally, but I like well-made fatty foods!!
Champagne - well said. If I want tea and cake, or a sandwich, I always try to go for independent cafes rather than coffee house chains and fast food places. Partly to not participate in those chains' domination of the market, but mostly because the food and drinks are cheaper and better anyway! What more prefect combination could there be?
For a burger, I must admit I do frequent a couple of chains but they're generally not particularly large ones, such as Hamburger Union and Gourmet Burger Kitchen. Also some more independent places such as (in London) Bodeans and the Arkansas Cafe. Eating and the enjoyment of it are important - so I'm prepared to shell out a bit more if I know I'm getting something good.
For a burger, I must admit I do frequent a couple of chains but they're generally not particularly large ones, such as Hamburger Union and Gourmet Burger Kitchen. Also some more independent places such as (in London) Bodeans and the Arkansas Cafe. Eating and the enjoyment of it are important - so I'm prepared to shell out a bit more if I know I'm getting something good.
I only had a brief look at this page - I can't abide sites that require Flash. My first impression is that the information is selective at best. For example the list of ingredients for Chicken McNuggets: they provide a link to list in a barely legible PDF file which is about half as long as another official McD resource:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.
You decide.
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.
You decide.
And to follow the nuggets ingredients - its the provenance of the meat that should cause the eyebrows to shoot up - Brazil and Thailand are the major suppliers of poultry meat for the processing industry.
A large proportion is sent to Holland, where the lovely scientists have developed methods to increase the value i.e. the cost to the buyer, by adding beef DNA to the poultry. This means they can add extra water when the meat is frozen as beef holds water better than poultry flesh. This in turn means as the meat is sold by weight, the producer gets a higher return.
It has even been developed in such a way that adulterated meat like this is invisible to testing - FSA has a real problem with it at present.
Never mind what the conditions were like for the animals in the first place, let alone what is in the meat in terms of chemical residue, hormones and anti-bacterial compounds.
All there for us to enjoy. . . . use your right to boycott fast food.
A large proportion is sent to Holland, where the lovely scientists have developed methods to increase the value i.e. the cost to the buyer, by adding beef DNA to the poultry. This means they can add extra water when the meat is frozen as beef holds water better than poultry flesh. This in turn means as the meat is sold by weight, the producer gets a higher return.
It has even been developed in such a way that adulterated meat like this is invisible to testing - FSA has a real problem with it at present.
Never mind what the conditions were like for the animals in the first place, let alone what is in the meat in terms of chemical residue, hormones and anti-bacterial compounds.
All there for us to enjoy. . . . use your right to boycott fast food.
Good article here linking the destruction of Amazon rainforests with Chicken McNuggets in Europe.
Was there some scandal about them allegedly using human fat? I'm guessing if there was, they'd want to add a response.
I wonder how true the story is in Schloss's book Fast Food Nation, where he talks about poor health & safety practices and use of very low-paid immigrant workers, one of whom supposedly fell into the production line and got completely ground down into mince. THAT might have incorporated a bit of "human fat" into their products.
I wonder how true the story is in Schloss's book Fast Food Nation, where he talks about poor health & safety practices and use of very low-paid immigrant workers, one of whom supposedly fell into the production line and got completely ground down into mince. THAT might have incorporated a bit of "human fat" into their products.
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