Should Judges Receive Such A Large Pay Rise?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/judges-pay-rise-salary-senior-salaries-review-body-thousands-a8580061.html

[dannyk13]

No.

[ToraToraTora]

No USOS should get a pay cut the amount of misery they inflict on us.

[fender62]

if they had any decency they, the judges would say no to a pay rise, considering us plebs have been living with austerity for some years
but they live in the clouds with the gods, like mp's and the lords.
do they need it... i very much doubt it, but i guess the old manor may need a new slating, harbor fees have gone up old boy, and the yacht
needs berthing.

[Fatalbertfixer]

No

[hereIam]

Definitely not, especially when you think of the ridiculous sentences they pass because the defence lawyers says the vicious criminal is 'very, very sorry' for the awful things they did!!

[dannyk13]

A pay rise of £60,000 is obscene.

[fiction-factory]

It won't happen, I'm pretty sure. But if it does we should get nearly half of it back as they pay the additional rate of tax (unless they have some good accountants)

[ToraToraTora]

"if they had any decency" - stop it fender - you urt me!

[Peter Pedant]

I wonder if New J is gonna chip his five-pounds-worth in.

Judges have always been at a premium - two from my year Bean and Simon ( sons of yup JJ Bean and Simon) - and they earn plenty plenty so £150 000 is a bit of a pay cut.

five days ( = full working week in the High Court as a punter) you can expect to be charged £60 000.

so 150k is a pay cut

BUT wait ! - the lawyers are self employed and so they have no pensions ( hem hem) and the reasson to be a judge is - - - the judges' pension..... which we havent heard about on teevee today

Late seventies ( no not the judge in his late seventies bless, the years of the late seventies ) the pension started off for a High Ct judge at £94,000

Jesus H Christ unbelievable -

so when the pension reforms came in ( Mackay LC) got the judges' pensions ring fenced - Judges Pensions Act 2002
whcih was then cut by the Judges Pensions Amendment Act
and is due to be cut again

so really they arent well paid compared to previously
(previously they werent contributory - you and I paid for the whole whack) - but if you were a naughty boy you lost the whole lot .....

[New Judge]

Only five pounds worth, Peter? I light my oil lamps with those!

Of course all judges should get a massive pay rise - especially new ones!!! :-)

[Theland]

For the few and not the many.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Its a retention issue - they can make a lot more working in the courts - and having just done jury duty I know they are very short to the extent my local CC is closing for 5 months.

[THECORBYLOON]

USOS?

[Mamyalynne]

The Usos are an American professional wrestling tag team of Samoan descent.

[jourdain2]

No. It is an obscene amount of money on top of what is obviously a large salary. Teaching Assistants are not even paid enough to pay tax and they work very hard and prevent a lot of kids ending up before the courts. £60K - wow, what I could do with that.

[EDDIE51]

Yes ! they deserve every penny. Do you realise how much they can earn by leaving the High Court and working as legal advisors ? It takes many years to get to the position. The training costs £100s of thousands.Unless they are paid in proportion to their worth , we will lose them and have to train more.

[Old_Geezer]

Seem to be overpaid already, to me.

[fender62]

jourdain2, the old boys network and all things plummy, they live in the clouds like i said previously...oh i hear but they took the time to get an expensive education..probably paid for by dad and mummy in the beginning, who were obviously rich anyway, but never lived in the real world or went without, but pass judgement on on there lessers and people who again have a silver spoon, or as americans would say, born on second base...do i begrudge am i jealious..no
just the over the top pay rise, when so many are working their mmm so called off for practically nothing, lets sort of square the playing field a little bit, oh i hear it's just the way thing have always been.
defer the payrise...if i were them, the peasants wont be happy
it's an injustice when so many hard working people, cannot even dream of such an amount...

[Peter Pedant]

// Do you realise how much they can earn by leaving the High Court and working as legal advisors ?//

eddie I think you are having a spazzie....

Very few judges resign and go back to practice at the Bar. Judge Twomble (or someone) resigned in 1922 by shooting himself - gambling debts but that may not count
There have only been a few - one went back to commercial practice ( hur hur hur ) and said 'I just got sick of hearing cases in criminal court where one person had belted another person'