Birmingham Pub Bombings Inquest

[agchristie]

At least one of those named is still alive.Should efforts be stepped up to prosecute?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-47670167

[Hopkirk]

I second that, Tony.

[retrocop]

They were all heinous and cowardly and not a subject to mock by PP who probably never came close to the carnage and aftermath of a bomb scene.
He claims he is partly death. Well so am I, I lost my hearing when in close proximity to a Post Office box containing a 'come on bomb' in Camden Hill Sq Notting Hill. Lucky the cast iron shrapnel didn't take my head off. If,as PP claims, he was a doctor then no doubt he will know of the eminent physician who was blown up whilst walking his dog. He made the mistake of prodding a package underneath his neighbour's car( a politician who was the original target)
PP would not recognise the smell of improvised explosive (ANFO or ANAL) let alone the smell after it explodes at the scene and should zip it if he considers it a matter for flippant mirth.

[retrocop]

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https://www.nytimes.com/1975/10/24/archives/bomb-kills-a-doctor-near-london-home-of-caroline-kennedy-a-narrow.html

[retrocop]

//He claims he is partly death//
typo deaf

[ichkeria]

In principal if feasible then all these crimes should still be prosecuted especially if victims relatines are still alive. That goes for all,
Although the troubles are over, unsolved murders are still on the police books and rightly so.

[Peter Pedant]

the cancer doctor killed instead of Caroline Kennedy was Gordon Hamilton Fairley - famous family - his father had shown the existence of the malarial exo-erythrocytic cycle
(my ! those are long words, 1000Abers turn to todays Brexit thread).
Malarial parasites seemed to disappear if you injected them into servicemen ( yup!) - and the prevailing wisdom er 1930 was that they were there in the blood but very rare. The father showed they were in the liver. The quinine derivatives that clear the liver were called a radical cure.

But why did the IRA try to blow up a relative of an american sympathiser ? Edw Kennedy had called on the then british govt to 'cease and desist frarm...." killing innocent irishmen ?

well it wasnt her then was it?

Hamilton Fairley is thought to have seen the package and prodded it (Diana Hamilton Fairley said - my husband was always wondering and asking questions) and it blew off his legs so he bled to death and also blew him over a 6 ' fence

The police arrived ( hi Retro ! ) and concluded that a dog had set off a bomb and his body was found a few hours later.

but who had done it - and do we know ?

Yup - Balcombe street gang - 'we didnt mean to kill the cancer specialist'
I agree the Crown said - well they would say that wouldnt they?
and this was lapped up by then gullible jury and now gullible Retro.

So by and large Gordon Hamiilton Fairley's death 1975 had nothing to do with the Birmingham bombs then or now but hey ! lets bring it up anyway.

Doesnt anyone remember this stuff in real time? ho hum - no I suppose it is AB in full swing ....

[Peter Pedant]

// In principal if feasible then all these crimes should still be prosecuted //

no too many crimes ( look at knife crime for a start ) so you have to decide/winnow/ concentrate on the important bits
Blackburn v MPC 1964 I think - I can give the ref if s/o states they will read it

[Peter Pedant]

and who were they after - when they blew up Hamilton Fairley?
probably one of her majesty's judges who had sentenced a few and lived around the corner from Carolina.

hey but even after 50 y I am estopped from giving his probable name.

[ichkeria]

I was using the term “all” to refer to murders during the troubles.
But if you have a suspect and admissible evidence for any crime the same applies.

[mushroom25]

one of the best first-hand accounts of the bombings was written by Alan Hill, one of the first on the scene of the "tavern in the town" bomb. his crew had been en-route to the mulberry bush but turned into new street in time to see the debris of the second bomb just settling. Alan Hill died some time ago and the account (which had been on his own website) died with him, which is a pity.