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Who do these tinpot leaders of vassal states think they are? apparently if we don't provide a plan it'll be "over" - great sit on your hands Boris! Let's get out of this omnihole.
Who do these tinpot leaders of vassal states think they are? apparently if we don't provide a plan it'll be "over" - great sit on your hands Boris! Let's get out of this omnihole.
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Schengen clearly *is* relevant because it sets the scene for why Switzerland has such a border. The Irish situation meanwhile it complicated by, for example, the Good Friday Agreement and the Common Travel area, both of which are UK-Ireland arrangements that nevertheless *will* be compromised if a solution isn't found. All parties agree on this fact.
I don't dispute that a deal between the EU and UK can be found that avoids all these problems. The problem is that the UK specifically wants to leave the Customs Union and the Single Market -- as well as take back control of its borders. All of these positions are fundamentally incompatible with an open border on Ireland.
I don't dispute that a deal between the EU and UK can be found that avoids all these problems. The problem is that the UK specifically wants to leave the Customs Union and the Single Market -- as well as take back control of its borders. All of these positions are fundamentally incompatible with an open border on Ireland.
Consider these points.
“In an attempt to begin bridging differences between the two sides, three papers were sent to the European Commission outlining Britain’s draft plans to avoid a hard border in Northern Ireland. The first outlined Downing Street’s offer to create a single all-Ireland food and agricultural zone with checks on produce at ports on the Irish Sea. In the second plans were outlined for a surveillance system to prevent goods entering EU markets that did not comply with European standards. The final paper gave British proposals for “alternative arrangements” for customs checks away from the Irish border, which have long been proposed by the prime minister. This would require that the EU accept a customs tariff border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland but without any physical infrastructure on the actual border.”
“There are growing signs that the details of a deal could be hammered out when the Prime Minister meets EU leaders at the UN General Assembly in New York next week, which will be attended by Arlene Foster, the DUP leader. Leo Varadkar, the Irish Taoiseach, said he would be meeting Mr Johnson in New York “to try to get a deal”,
But before that "opposition MPs are to meet with Barmier before the official Brexit secretary does......why?
That is why Boris insisted on the return of all "papers" presented at the meetings this week. Counted them out and counted them back in before coming home. It wasn't a worry about details being "leaked" to Brussels "correspondents" at all it was the knowledge that the details would be handed to the Remainiac traitors.
“In an attempt to begin bridging differences between the two sides, three papers were sent to the European Commission outlining Britain’s draft plans to avoid a hard border in Northern Ireland. The first outlined Downing Street’s offer to create a single all-Ireland food and agricultural zone with checks on produce at ports on the Irish Sea. In the second plans were outlined for a surveillance system to prevent goods entering EU markets that did not comply with European standards. The final paper gave British proposals for “alternative arrangements” for customs checks away from the Irish border, which have long been proposed by the prime minister. This would require that the EU accept a customs tariff border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland but without any physical infrastructure on the actual border.”
“There are growing signs that the details of a deal could be hammered out when the Prime Minister meets EU leaders at the UN General Assembly in New York next week, which will be attended by Arlene Foster, the DUP leader. Leo Varadkar, the Irish Taoiseach, said he would be meeting Mr Johnson in New York “to try to get a deal”,
But before that "opposition MPs are to meet with Barmier before the official Brexit secretary does......why?
That is why Boris insisted on the return of all "papers" presented at the meetings this week. Counted them out and counted them back in before coming home. It wasn't a worry about details being "leaked" to Brussels "correspondents" at all it was the knowledge that the details would be handed to the Remainiac traitors.
//There are growing signs that the details of a deal could be hammered out when the Prime Minister meets EU leaders at the UN General Assembly in New York next week, which will be attended by Arlene Foster, the DUP leader. Leo Varadkar, the Irish Taoiseach, said he would be meeting Mr Johnson in New York “to try to get a deal”,//
That just leaves about 560 other pages of the deal for which to find a satisfactory solution (for the UK). There is a grave danger that the remainder of the disastrous "deal" is lost in the noise of he Backstop.
That just leaves about 560 other pages of the deal for which to find a satisfactory solution (for the UK). There is a grave danger that the remainder of the disastrous "deal" is lost in the noise of he Backstop.
Message read and understood Judge. I have a feeling that Boris has a team of advisers who are on the case. I have not yet resigned myself to continuing fighting against the evil empire even when the current dust settles but, like millions more, will gird my loins and go again if we are manacled to the EUSSR with honeyed words that are a disguise for poison. We will make the pyramid scheme collapse from within if needs be just like Samson at the temple of Dagon.
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