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the good news just keeps coming for boris doesn't it?
10:40 Sat 08th Feb 2020
What a good way to bring this country to its knees! I agree with Emmie. Back to the 'good old days'!

Momentum, as Jackdaw, has said, will be behind her every step of the way.
Labour appear to be in the same position they have been in with Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock, Ed Milliband, and Jeremy Corbyn - their utter inability to elect a leader with anything approaching the intelligence, political savvy and experience, and ability to be liked by, and connect with voters.

Sir Keir seems less of a loon than most, but still lacks gravitas and presence, Ms. Long Bailey is already hitting the self-destruct button before she is even chosen, and there is no-one else even remotely credible in the frame.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind ...
are these people unaware of history? The last time a real Labour government had power?
We should learn from history, but it doesn't happen. I wonder how many are aware of the political history and outcomes, or even if they have any interest in it?
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Apc i was being ironic, hope you get that...
I certainly did Emmie.
they weren't good old days but one of strikes and stuff, i remember it well.
Is that it?
Go on strike and turn your mobile off?
What we (you) need is a bloke (alright, person...) with a pipe and a Gannex.
Long-Bailey isn’t going to be the next labour leader.
Starmer has a huge lead and it’s getting bigger as new members back him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she failed to make the runoff
Emmie - /4they weren't good old days but one of strikes and stuff, i remember it well.hey weren't good old days but one of strikes and stuff, i remember it well.//

Me too!
It may be apocryphal, but given it is something I read from the excellent Dominic Sandbrook I doubt it is, and he wrote about a strike in the 70s because a dead cat was found in a factory.

Presumably the increasingly absurd RLB would endorse nonsense such as this.

Vic Spanner must be revelling in this.
Like Emmie & others I remember the horrors of all-powerful Trade Unions in the 70's. Some original grievances were genuine, of course, that's how they got to be so powerful. I don't remember all the details (mercifully buried) but 1 lot were striking because a 20% increase was being offered and they had asked for more. There were all sorts of stupid reasons which were seized on just to exercise power. I did sympathise with the miners though, they were fighting for their lives, until they blew it with the flying pickets and violence.

We had to check the local paper to find the charts which told us when the electricity would be on each day and organise our lives around that. That is a very vivid memory, as well as eating with only an oil lamp for light (I bought one). Thank goodness we had a gas cooker! (That's one of the reasons I'm anti being all-electric, by the way, too vulnerable to one industry.)

i remember all that and more, working by candlelight, i kid you not, rubbish piling up on the streets, rat infested and filthy. WE can't go back to those times, we simply can't.
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