Morality Subjective / Objective?

[Theland]

What underpins your personal morality?
Is it objective or subjective?

[naomi24]

//Naomi , when you put it in such stark terms it of course makes no sense.//

It makes perfect sense, Theland. Murder is murder. Why, in your opinion, does the identity of the murderer negate his crimes? That’s what you’re saying, isn’t it?

//But of course this is a non question if asked by an atheist who considers the bible to be pure myth.//

It’s a reasonable question, Theland, albeit a difficult one for you to answer honestly - and I don’t regard the bible as pure myth.

[Theland]

Reference Jeffrey H Tigay PhD.
All defeated peoples were offered terms of surrender.
Enslavement or exile.
Only if they chose armed resistance was violence used.
This was true of every tribe not only the Canaanites.
There, answered.

[allenlondon]

Socialist principles - i.e. to treat other people decently.

Thus both subjective and objective. Good for me and my loved ones, but also good for society, now and in an evolutionary sense.

[naomi24]

Theland, No, not answered. It’s not true to say that only if they chose armed resistance was violence used. This is a question of ethics and one you have yet to answer.

[naomi24]

Allen, //Socialist principles - i.e. to treat other people decently.//

To claim that solely a ‘socialist principle’ is an insult to people who know better than to aspire to what you call ‘socialist principles’. Go to a country run entirely on your socialist/Marxist philosophy and see how well people are treated. You wouldn’t like it. You'll have to be quick though. Most of them have collapsed - and for good reason.

[Zacs-Master]

Vietnam is the only socialist country I can think of who’s leaders treat the populace it’s any kind of decency.

Can you name any others, Allan?

[Zacs-Master]

‘With’ not ‘it’s’

[naomi24]

Zacs, since property/business ownership is permitted, I don’t think the regime in Vietnam is typical of the socialist/Marxist philosophy that Allen embraces.

[Zacs-Master]

I just want him to give examples of socialist countries which treat its citizens decently. Very simple.

[allenlondon]

But that wasn't the question, Zacs (or Naomi come to that).

It was about personal morality.

I'm not going to play with your ball, on your ground, to your rules.

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[Zacs-Master]

Allan’s done a ‘Theland’.

[Theland]

If the people confronted chose armed resistance, they paid the consequences for rejecting the alternatives.
Question answered.
You just don't like the answer.

[allenlondon]

Why, does he stick to the questions, and refuse to be drawn into your devious webs?

[Zacs-Master]

No, he conveniently forgets what he’s written and then, when unable to provide an answer, moves the goalposts.

[Theland]

Ive answered the question.

[naomi24]

Theland, read your bible.

Allen, // It was about personal morality.//

No it wasn’t. It was about what you call ‘socialist principles’. You talk about those principles being good for society, but refuse to give an example of a society in which those principles have been employed successfully. Why is that? Could it be that highfaluting principles work in .. erm ..principle but fail miserably in reality?