Good! Mandatory To Wear Masks On Public Transport In England In Mid June

[Bobbisox1]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/face-coverings-mandatory-on-all-public-transport-england-grant-shapps-a4460136.html

I’ve no problem with this at all, save people not sending their sneezes your way
But why wait till mid June, why not now ?

[dannyk13]

The BMA is asking the government to make it mandatory in all situations where it is not possible to observe social distancing.

[fiction-factory]

>Em, I think you need to compare there deaths with ours, don't you think? just in case you don't. Because they started wearing them from the beginning, they are now seeing the results of that early decision.

Thanks Teacake. I'm well aware of the figures. Deaths per million- we are on a par with Spain and a bit worse than Italy. Cases per million- Spain are much higher than us.
So they wear masks but still have high figures- while we have a had an incompetent PM and lying, incompetent health secretary and no PPE apparently according to your negative posts.

The evidence on face coverings is marginal at best. Social distancing is what matters. A face covering is of marginal help only if you don't social distance and provided you handle the mask properly which too many don't

[mushroom25]

// I struggle to breathe without a mask so I can't see me wearing one and there will be plenty of others like me.
Wonder if I'll be glared at! //


no. you'll be refused travel, as covering your face will be a condition of carriage. current version here, the new one hasn't been uploaded yet. https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/National%20Rail%20Conditions%20of%20Travel.pdf

not sure how those with difficulty breathing will be dealt with - probably you'll need a letter of exemption from your GP.

[gulliver1]

Em ,Was it mentioned in the media that on wed 3rd of june , there were more deaths in the UK , than all the Countries in the E/U added together , so face masks must help a lot

[teacake44]

We have the highest death rate, but you cook it how you like, and were not finished yet. Most of your post relates to old evidence of face masks/coverings, social distancing don't work, unless you want to carry a tape measure around with you, or pop into Halfords and have some sensors fitted to your pants so they beep if your on a collision course. The droplets can travel up to 20 meters. Why would the government be prepared to fine you for not wearing one if there no good.

[fiction-factory]

>Why would the government be prepared to fine you for not wearing one if there (sic) no good.
If the government is no good? Or if face masks are no good?
The point is they can help (marginally) on transport if social distancing isn't possible. We don't disagree on that.

[teacake44]

Marginally can = thousands of saved lives. I already know the government are no good, like I say the droplets can travel up to 20 meters, so the 2 meter rule is also no good, and when kids go back to school, and people back to work its impossible to keep 2 meters even if it did work.

[fiction-factory]

Okay. You'd better stay 20 metres away from any mask face covering wearer who hasn't washed theirs properly or wears it incorrectly if you want to feel totally safe

[teacake44]

15.23 Naa, you got it wrong, your getting very confused. If someone coughs 20 meters away from where your standing, and their not wearing a face mask, then the finer droplets can travel up to 20 meters, towards you, if you have a mask on there's a very good chance they will stop the droplets enter your nose and mouth. If that same person wears a mask, then there's less chance of it spreading to 20 meters. So to conclude, if both wear a mask then there's less chance of the virus spreading. Hope this helps, its just common sense really. Oh, and why do you think care homes were crying out for masks for the last 4 months?

[fiction-factory]

Because the privately run care homes hadn't bought /kept enough? And because social distancing certainly isn't possible. It was masks for carers though not residents

[fiction-factory]

What about he ones who wear the mask under their chin or take it off to speak/drink- you'd need to be 20 metres away based on your science

[Peter Pedant]

have we had yet - there is no good evidence ( "weak") evidence that facemasks work

that no is meant to cough 'at' people
that the length some bits of breath spread is irrelevant to virus spread and so all that has to be done AGAIN = properly

and by the end of the day the mask becomes a sodden infected mess abit like someone hankie only it is over their face and they are breathing thro

they havent mentioned it? well I have now

[teacake44]

Hence the fine for not wearing one, wearing one, means properly.

[teacake44]

15.46 Mine won't be a sodden infected mess because I have replaceable liners ( throw away)