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Ellipsis | 20:20 Tue 01st Jun 2021 | Film, Media & TV
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On Channel 4 right now.

Repeated on +1 at 10PM.

Very interesting watch if you're into science, anti-vax, Andrew Wakefield, etc.

Anybody watching?
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Lots of different bleachy chemicals mentioned, including hydrogen peroxide and swimming pool bleach ("Miracle Mineral Solution").

It doesn't really matter whether it was technically bleach, what matters is the huge strips of children's bowel linings that the stupid/abusive parents actually kept in jars to show the effect of what they were doing ... "washing out the autism".

There are some vulnerable people in the world, and this program did a great job of showing the techniques that snakeoil peddlers use to snare them. Elle Macpherson, Wakefield's girlfriend since 2018, left her billionaire husband for Wakefield. Her previous boyfriend's wealth is in the hundreds of millions. I suspect Wakefield is not short of a bob or two.
ellipsis: //Lots of different bleachy chemicals mentioned, including hydrogen peroxide and swimming pool bleach ("Miracle Mineral Solution").// - I know PP was trolling as usual.
ellipsis; //It doesn't really matter whether it was technically bleach, what matters is the huge strips of children's bowel linings that the stupid/abusive parents actually kept in jars to show the effect of what they were doing ... "washing out the autism".// - I know it beggars belief how moronic some people are. Surely that must be something for the US equivalent of social services/RSPCC?

//There are some vulnerable people in the world, and this program did a great job of showing the techniques that snakeoil peddlers use to snare them. Elle Macpherson, Wakefield's girlfriend since 2018, left her billionaire husband for Wakefield. Her previous boyfriend's wealth is in the hundreds of millions. I suspect Wakefield is not short of a bob or two// - She must be radio rental.
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Karma?
Is that nebulised peroxide the same as what Trump was suggesting to treat covid?? Yikes, people really do this, and believe it? I felt sorry for the parents who thought these horrific treatments would help their children.
That's when I stopped watching.
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More "inevitable" than "karma", Ken. Not inevitable for him personally, but inevitable that a large number of people who don't get vaccinated will get very ill or even die, especially older people, and now he's one of them.

I think in this guy's case he is stupid, not evil, so I feel a bit sorry for him and those that listen to him.
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> Is that nebulised peroxide the same as what Trump was suggesting to treat covid??

My impression was that Trump was vaguely aware of this sort of stuff through his friendship with some parents of an autistic child, and unwisely brought it up during that infamous press conference.
ken 09:35, I bet he still doesn't believe Covid exists he probably thinks the CIA injected him with a virus to make him look like a brainless tawt!
//I know PP was trolling as usual.//
nope - PP is showing he has chemmy O level 1966 vintage

Bleach is NaOCl - and is Very Bad for one - had a few bleach drinkers and it is truly a terrible way to die

H2O2 - tooth whitener, I wd not regard as bleach -
and gargle
this will give off O2 ( oxygen that is!) slowly
or by a biochem reaction with peroxide dismutase(+)
or by a catalyst such as manganese

(+) more about it here
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/superoxide-dismutase

There is a difference between trolling and being too keen not to read or understand some thing
// it doesn't really matter whether it was technically bleach, //
yes it does - - note there is a hint, just a little hint of " o god he was right it wasnt bleach"

let us call a thing a thing and not another thing

Walker Smith - ( famous gastro) was co author of the first paper and punished for his lack of interest in what he signed

and Wakefield then, was very different to Wakefield now ( completely doo-lally ) - but I have to say i think it didnt warrant an hour ( seemd much much longer) - - which was to me:

Dr W. after many adventures, is making a lot of money, from covid stories

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