Why Not Just Cancel Females Altogether? (Part Ii - The Truth)

[sp1814]

Earlier this week someone reacted to the news that the term 'Head Girl' was not going to be used any more at St Paul's Girls school.

If anyone felt that the school was wrong, the truth is now out.

https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/1407385210661003272?s=21

1. Head of School was the original title. They're reverting back to it.
2. The 17 and 18 year olds wanted a title that was more age-appropriate. They were polled on this.

Should we be concerned that newspapers are now frequently writing stories to fit a narrative...to rile up their readers?

[New Judge]

Indeed, mozz. But the question that arises is why would any sane and rational person even consider using alternative terms for those two, let alone make it known they are doing so?

[Mozz71]

Easy answer Judge, they don't. Anyone whose brains work in such a way as to think those words/terms are derogatory in any way are not "sane and rational". You can be respectful to LGTBQ+ folk without having to rewrite the English language. I'm sure most of the LGTBQ+ community feel exactly the same.

[naomi24]

Mozz is sure. Well, that’s alright then. How encouraging. The simple fact is mothers are mothers, women are women, and men who fantasise about being women, no matter how they dress or what they have cut off or pumped up are not women and never will be. ‘LGTBQ+’ want respect? So do women but where's the respect for them in all of this?

[Mozz71]

The two are not mutually exclusive Naomi. I not speaking for anyone else, but I can be respectful to both LGTBQ+ folk and woman, and I can't see why anyone else can't.

And yes, I am sure. I'm sure, because most in that community are, to use Judge's phrase, "sane and rationable people", and not frothing-mouthed extremists, like those make up this crap.

[tomus42]

To answer the question, yes we should be concerned that newspapers make up stuff and report it as fact.

We should probably be more concerned that the people buying the papers don't seem to care much that it's made up.

[Chinajan]

A significant number of LGB people are increasingly distancing themselves from the 'T' part of that initialism. Largely I think due to Stonewall's perceived capture by TRAs.

[naomi24]

Mozz, well you shouldn’t be sure. Members of that community want to use women’s public toilets and changing areas and get miffed when women have a problem with that. They think they’re allowed to be fussy about the people they’re sharing such spaces with but women are not. Women just have to accept it. That’s not respect. That’s arrogant disdain.

[sp1814]

Thank God for people like you Mozz71!

I don't believe in God, but you get the drift

;-)

When someone writes "Members of that community" you should be on your guard because members of ALL groups think differently.

Some straight people agree with mixed restrooms, and some don't; some women are fine with it and some aren't.

Best ignore the ramblings, as you have successfully done.

[New Judge]

//Some straight people agree with mixed restrooms, and some don't; some women are fine with it and some aren't.//

I assume you man toilets.

The difficulty is that for those who are fine with it, it doesn't matter. To those who are not fine with it, it does matter and if "mixed" is the only option it's not fine at all. Women enter women's toilets expecting them to be used only by other women, not men masquerading as women.

[sp1814]

Thanks NJ.

It may very well be that this is a generational thing. Younger people have a different outlook than older people who grew up with men's and women's toilets.

Just like their attitude to LGBT people, sex before marriage, people having babies outside wedlock, the role of the church and mixed race marriages are wholly different from previous generations.

[naomi24]

SP, the people we’re talking about are ‘members of that community’ aren’t they? Why otherwise do you, Mozz, and they themselves accept the group title LGTBQ+?

if it’s important to men who masquerade as women to use women’s toilets, why do they complain when women are selective too? If men care, why shouldn’t women?

[sp1814]

naomi24

I’m sure that many would agree with you. I suppose it’s just one of those things where different people interpret the same story different ways.

I think we can agree to disagree on this.

[naomi24]

That's your standard mantra when you don't have a rational answer, SP. It's not the first time you've said it on this thread alone.
Another pinch of salt for me.

[sp1814]

naomi24

It’s one of two. It’s not that I don’t have an answer…it’s just my way of politely shutting a conversation down when I think it’s reached it’s natural end.

I’ve checked out your history on the site and see that you have the time to carry on discussion ad infinity, which is great for the site.

But unfortunately I don’t have as much time as you.

So - we’ll done. Consider me beaten by your argument.

You are ABSOLUTELY the winner here.

Enjoy your day!!

[naomi24]

Now where did I put that salt pot? :o)

[sp1814]

Damn...I forgot.

Last word rights too.

Here you go.

Floor's all yours.

Make it a zinger!