There Should Be No Appeal On This Sentence

[Barsel]

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/woman-guilty-killing-seven-year-21292701

I remember when this happened and how shocked I was that this could happen in broad daylight in a park where her parents were and I believe the father saw it actually happen although it doesn't mention that in this article.
This woman should never be set free and I hope her legal team loses the appeal.

[pixie374]

Paranoid schizophrenia... why isn't she being looked after?

[Jackdaw33]

She's in a secure psychiatric prison.

[davebro]

An Albanian "asylum seeker" who lied on her application to stay in the UK. Should never even have been here - now we have to house & feed her for years. Disgusting.

[Mamyalynne]

Yes it was horrendous, my childhood park and I know a few who were there that day too.

It's going to be some years if at all that this woman is any where near well enough to leave the confines of an institution.

[pixie374]

I think what shocks me most- is not that people are ill, but that professionals know this- and do nothing, with apparently no responsibility whatsoever.
This woman should clearly have remained in the psychiatric hospital, forever, unless, successfully treated.
Prison was never going to help.
But, who decided she was safe to be around the public? Someone is responsible for that decision...

[pixie374]

Apologies, it doesn't say if she was still in a psychiatric hospital or moved to prison. But, it remains the same.

[pixie374]

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/18929974.skana-history-violence-mental-illness/

[eve1974]

I recall this case. Horrifying and tragic beyond words.

However ….

The perpetrator deserves some empathy too.

She is ill. She was not thinking as a “normal” person wld.

Yes it is good that she is incarcerated of course and tragic (beyond words) for the family of the little girl.

Also the fact that she was an immigrant is neither here nor there. That is co incidence and a separate issue altogether.

The other thing that concerns me (I know my answer is long!) is that things like this make the stigma of mental health so much worse. The vast majority of schizophrenics are not violent.

[Barsel]

It probably wasn't realised that this woman would kill someone, but the fact is that she did, and they really don't know if she might do it again, so imo she should never be released. The sentence she's been given seems fair, but it shouldn't be less than this, so I hope any appeal will fail.

[pixie374]

I hope she is treated in a secure psychiatric place- and that those the diagnosed and knew all of her previous history, take some responsibility for allowing this to happen.

[youngmafbog]

Schizophrenics can be 'cured' and able to function in society, a good friend of mine is one. Yes he has spent time in psychiatric units and has referred himself into one. Now living in Switzerland he has received some excellent help and is in very good shape, but I'm not sure the same treatment is available here.

I am really not sure what an appeal will do. She cannot be released until they are very sure she is 'cured' and got the medication right. That will be a long process and no one can really be sure how long it will take. I think appealing in this case is wrong.