U Turns, (I've Had A Few) & Shamima

[Khandro]

I have been previously against allowing Shamima Begum to return back to England, but having read this article - which in turn relates to a film called 'The Return', available on SKY and NOW TV (which I can't get). I have to say I have had a change of mind.

If you haven't been dibbing into the TLS you should, if you so wish, be able to read this short article & if you do, what do you think?

https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/the-return-life-after-isis-review-clive-stafford-smith/

[ynnafymmi]

Pots and kettles,Dougie.Lighten up old boy.Sturgeon is a nationalist,Bojo is a nationalist.Nationalists are fair targets on this site ,Dougie.I would say they are the scum of the earth,but i wont.

[Peter Pedant]

american attitudes to reurning islamists

accounting of Americans who traveled to
join jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq since 2011. It identifies 64 travelers, the largest available sample to date.

clearly the Land of the Free didnt send many and they can afford to be sniffy. We have a few hundred ( as does netherland, France)

as far as I can see they arent welcoming their own back but finger pointing that those that have large numbers

[Jackdaw33]

This woman and her ilk, and those who sympathise with them would do well to heed the words of Julius Caesar when he crossed the Rubicon: alea iacta est (the die is cast, there is no return).

[Peter Pedant]

chrissakes - Julius Cheeza was crossing the Rubicon,
and planning to enslave the People of Rome,
nothing to do with allowing people to return

Assyria provincia delenda - - melius verbum
( like Carthago delenda est - yeah/)

I prefer
αὕτη ἐστὶν ἡ ἐντολὴ ἡ ἐμὴ, ἵνα ἀγαπᾶτε ἀλλήλους καθὼς ἠγάπησα ὑμᾶς.

an my instruction to you is love one another, as I have loved you

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "I agree with Tora. " - I need a lie down!

[Khandro]

"To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you."

[Peter Pedant]

lewis B smedes apparently
how true how true

[naomi24]

//"To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you." //

Get real, khandro!

[tomus42]

No. It has to be that if you choose to go, then there's no coming back.

[Stickybottle]

maggiebee
Why is it that anyone who displays a scrap of humanity on AB is immediately classed as a "bleeding heart liberal"?

There is a world of difference between humanity and stupidity and to take her back in any circumstances would be the latter

[fender62]

maybe smallpox or cholera will wipeout the whole camp.

[Ellipsis]

Well done, Khandro, I'm impressed. This is one of those very rare times on AB where someone has the courage to admit they have changed their view. It doesn't really matter what their view was before or after, we all have our opinions on what's right and wrong, but having the courage to say you've changed your mind is a rarity!

[davebro]

She's not the only one:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58814804

I wonder what these women would have been saying if ISIS had succeeded in its aims?

[Khandro]

'Her [Mrs Jack's] comments come as Germany and Denmark repatriated 11 women and 37 children from the same camp [as Begum] with German Foreign Minister Heiko Mass saying the children bore no responsibility for their situation.

"It is right that we do everything to make possible for them a life in safety and a good environment," he added.' D.T.