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In these situations, it's difficult to be sure if Mrs May is simply repeating the agreed and obvious, or if she is attempting to shore up her own reputation by stamping all over her successor's.
Whatever the reason, I honestly doubt that much notice will be taken of her views by anyone within or without the party, and the media, and the public.
She attracted no special interest for her views when she was n office, I hardly think that will have chnaged now she is out of office.
Whatever the reason, I honestly doubt that much notice will be taken of her views by anyone within or without the party, and the media, and the public.
She attracted no special interest for her views when she was n office, I hardly think that will have chnaged now she is out of office.
I don't think Mrs May was trying to shore up anything or seek any publicity.
This was a debate triggered (rightly in my opinion) by messrs Chope and Cash (fans of Mr Paterson) last night when they objected to the government trying to perform their backtracking on the quiet.
I never really cared much for Theresa May ironically until she became PM: when the spotlight was turned on her yes it showed her failings but it also showed her basic decency and honesty. Something, I am sorry to say, that is sadly lacking in her successor who is a scallyway.
This was a debate triggered (rightly in my opinion) by messrs Chope and Cash (fans of Mr Paterson) last night when they objected to the government trying to perform their backtracking on the quiet.
I never really cared much for Theresa May ironically until she became PM: when the spotlight was turned on her yes it showed her failings but it also showed her basic decency and honesty. Something, I am sorry to say, that is sadly lacking in her successor who is a scallyway.
ich - //... yes it showed her failings but it also showed her basic decency and honesty. //
Hardly!
Prior to the Referendum Mrs May was a vocal supporter of remaining in the EU.
When she became PM, although unable to overtly try and overturn the will of the people, she certainly dragged her feet as far as possible, and did everything she could to delay the proper process from being enacted, despite a mandate from the electorate.
She was a sham PM, and is back where she belongs, on the back benches
Hardly!
Prior to the Referendum Mrs May was a vocal supporter of remaining in the EU.
When she became PM, although unable to overtly try and overturn the will of the people, she certainly dragged her feet as far as possible, and did everything she could to delay the proper process from being enacted, despite a mandate from the electorate.
She was a sham PM, and is back where she belongs, on the back benches
“ She did her best to stop Brexit, ich. That was neither decent nor honest.”
Some mistake surely!
She tried to negotiate a deal with the EU: realising that between opposition members and Brexit hardliners she did not have the numbers in parliament to pass any deal (and don’t forget had it not been for Gina Miller there would not even have been a vote) she called an election which went disastrously wrong. She was ill-advised on that but I don’t recall too many Tory voters complaining at the time. Rather salivating at the prospect of a San Marino-style routing of Jeremy Corbyn.
Then she was held to ransom by the DUP.
She tried her best to “get Brexit done” but Parliament was against her.
When she did depart the scene Johnson didn’t have the issues she had to desk with. He achieved a large majority making Brexit a formality and unlike Mrs May had no scruples about going back on his word to the DUP and signing through an agreement largely at the behest of the EU. And I say that as a supporter of our membership.
Some mistake surely!
She tried to negotiate a deal with the EU: realising that between opposition members and Brexit hardliners she did not have the numbers in parliament to pass any deal (and don’t forget had it not been for Gina Miller there would not even have been a vote) she called an election which went disastrously wrong. She was ill-advised on that but I don’t recall too many Tory voters complaining at the time. Rather salivating at the prospect of a San Marino-style routing of Jeremy Corbyn.
Then she was held to ransom by the DUP.
She tried her best to “get Brexit done” but Parliament was against her.
When she did depart the scene Johnson didn’t have the issues she had to desk with. He achieved a large majority making Brexit a formality and unlike Mrs May had no scruples about going back on his word to the DUP and signing through an agreement largely at the behest of the EU. And I say that as a supporter of our membership.
As for Andy H:
There just nonsense to be brutally frank.
Here I am standing up for a politician I didn’t even like for years!
It shows how far the standard had plummeted since she departed.
Her failings were nothing to do with dishonesty. In fact plainly as what has happened since shows, a little dishonesty might have helped
There just nonsense to be brutally frank.
Here I am standing up for a politician I didn’t even like for years!
It shows how far the standard had plummeted since she departed.
Her failings were nothing to do with dishonesty. In fact plainly as what has happened since shows, a little dishonesty might have helped
Perhaps she saw it as her duty to deliver the best deal she could, rather than no deal or no Brexit.
In any case, the idea that Theresa May "did her best to stop Brexit", or just "dragged her feet" over the matter, is a complete fabrication. I'm no fan of May, but you can criticise her legitimately enough already without making things up.
In any case, the idea that Theresa May "did her best to stop Brexit", or just "dragged her feet" over the matter, is a complete fabrication. I'm no fan of May, but you can criticise her legitimately enough already without making things up.
I am not sure if the average ABer realised what was going on
a. Boris had forced frooa motion that reversed the sanction against Paterson and said that a new committee would do it all again with rules to be decided
b. incredibly the people protested and more incredz some MPs ( sheep and yes men all of them) did as well
c. Boris tried to magic it OK by fwobbling his dear flaxen locks and looking lovable - but d there were no takers and
e there had to be a vote on the QT
f. a fella called Chope shouted non-placet (*) and so
g there had to be a formal debate and vote rather than a cover up
h. this allowed old lags to deplore what had become a disgraceful and shaming con unworthy of parliament
i. which they should have been able to spot on their own
and I agree with May - the sooner this cringe-making charade is over the better
(*) it doesnt please, or object! - a thousand Abers protest that they dont do rhyming slang so please cant PP not do it as well. PP claims it is Latin and about half the complement say " same fing den innit!"
a. Boris had forced frooa motion that reversed the sanction against Paterson and said that a new committee would do it all again with rules to be decided
b. incredibly the people protested and more incredz some MPs ( sheep and yes men all of them) did as well
c. Boris tried to magic it OK by fwobbling his dear flaxen locks and looking lovable - but d there were no takers and
e there had to be a vote on the QT
f. a fella called Chope shouted non-placet (*) and so
g there had to be a formal debate and vote rather than a cover up
h. this allowed old lags to deplore what had become a disgraceful and shaming con unworthy of parliament
i. which they should have been able to spot on their own
and I agree with May - the sooner this cringe-making charade is over the better
(*) it doesnt please, or object! - a thousand Abers protest that they dont do rhyming slang so please cant PP not do it as well. PP claims it is Latin and about half the complement say " same fing den innit!"
I am no Tory fan, but I do think some of the remarks regarding Mrs May are unjustified. From what I observed, she worked her socks off to get Brexit done- her workload was onerous to say the least. To me she comes over as a person of honesty and integrity- she picked up a poisened chalice and payed the price maybe? I think ichkeria got it about right earlier.
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