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I would bet our house that that message is genuine. I understand Tora's frustration
07:12 Tue 01st Mar 2022
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indeed.
If the Russian representative had claimed to have copies of messages from a Ukrainian soldier being critical of his own government, would you have believed them to be true or would you have questioned their authenticity?
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SB: "The fact that it was at the UN means nothing
It was frankly bilious " - you mean the Russian Ambassador?
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Who else would I have been referring to ?
I made it rather plain that I was
I think it is 'true'- as so much of it is true and people dont bother to forge something with all that detail

Crimean troops are in U - they were lied to - men are trying to stop tanks with pea shooters.
// had claimed to have copies of messages from a Ukrainian soldier being critical of his own government,//

1940, Tommy praised german surgeons for saving his sight and..... the people of Little Spodding, burnt his house.... - clearly the Tommy was in Germany

P G Wodehouse broadcast on internment conditions in germany and was forever cast into the wilderness (never got knighted)
Wodehouse was awarded the KBE in 1975.
I would bet our house that that message is genuine.

I understand Tora's frustration
I admit I too had reservations on its authenticity but having looked around at various sources it does seem genuine enough.

Putin's regime would be unlikely to tell the army the truth, they are Russians effectively fighting Russians, telling your Army you are going to kill fellow kinsmen would massively reduce morale.
Gulliver1, please try to keep your comments friendly when they're directed towards other users.
Has there been any verification of the text messages?
gulliver1 & friendly - you gotto be kidding!
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Gulliver1, please try to keep your comments friendly when they're directed towards other users.
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Lol !
Got laugh at that being posted on a thread started by an ABer with an unenviable track record for being admonished or suspended for his friendly manner !

The Traders
TROPers
TROBers
5Cers
and Putin’s children are sensing an irony overload

Pmsl !

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