Capital Punishment

[Canary42]

I am generally opposed to Capital Punishment since it authenticates the taking of life. But my convictions are sometimes sorely tried, as in the case of the unspeakable *** who set fire to these three lovely people's house, killing all three.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-63717024

Should we reintroduce it for particularly heinous murders ?

[davebro]

As capital punishment is ruled out (it is) & some murderers take their own life (thinking Fred West & Harold Shipman) should not all those convicted of murder be allowed to opt for voluntary euthanasia at any stage of their imprisonment?

[douglas9401]

Give scum even more choice and a chance to leave when they want to?

You seem to be missing the 'punishment' part, davebro.

[emmie]

life in prison with no chance of parole for the likes of cold blooded murderers, terrorists,

The person who killed the three people in the OP should never see the light of day again.

[davebro]

//Give scum even more choice and a chance to leave when they want to?//

Yes - get them off the face of the earth.
(you seem to be subscribing to the view that prison is a worse punishment than death!)

[emmie]

let them serve a whole life sentence.

[Untitled]

remember that ian brady asked for the death penalty rather than life improsonment and attempted to bargain information about his victims for it.... a lot of particularly nasty murderers ask for the death penalty too...

regardless as jno says absolute proof does not exist so if we reintroduce it then we're guaranteeing that at least some innocent people will be executed by the state

[douglas9401]

In as much as the dead don't know they're dead but the imprisoned know they ain't going down the pub or on holiday then, yes, I do davebro.

[Peter Pedant]

no because even heinous crimes ( bombs terrorism ) spectacularly convict the wrong people

( yeah yeah I know the Bham bombers really did it - no they didnt and we know they didnt)

[Peter Pedant]

In as much as the dead don't know they're dead
YEAH ! as Lord Killjoy ( muir I think) said
with capital punie, there is no appeal !

no a good reason to keep it ( those we have got wrong, no one has appealed) but Ld Killjoy ( 1965) thought it was
Good help us all

[Peter Pedant]

thinking Fred West & Harold Shipman

you know the wise Dr Shipman committed soodle-side for.....
good pension reasons?

if he waited until he was NHS pension age, with a stroke of a pen, the minister can deprive him of it ( his pension)

But if you DDDDIIIIIEEEEEE! before your pension is drawn/vested, then your widow inherits benefits ( under than scheme, which is long long gone).

Just saying and er trying to educate

[ynnafymmi]

Nah,too much wokeist eejits in the UK now for that to happen,Canary.Probably the murderous *** that did this will get a slap on the wrist or a few years in some comfortable jail.

[davebro]

I knew that PP - please don't keep implying that I am stupid.

[barry1010]

The USA death penalty is far more expensive than keeping a prisoner locked up for life, so it doesn't save money https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/76th2011/ExhibitDocument/OpenExhibitDocument?exhibitId=17686&fileDownloadName=h041211ab501_pescetta.pdf

A jury would be far less likely to find the accused guilty of murder if they knew they were handing out a death penalty - what if they were wrong? So, more murderers found guilty of manslaughter.

When a person commits murder they believe they have the right to kill, that the victim deserves to die. How is that different to capital punishment?

Albert Pierrepoint became opposed to capital punishment claiming it was 'nothing more than revenge'.

[davebro]

We've done all this before - ad nauseam. I'm out.

[fitdarren]

If it was put to the vote, I'd vote Yes!

[barry1010]

So you want to make a good person in to a murderer? If we condemn those that murder how can we condone killing in cold blood?

[ToraToraTora]

davebro: "I knew that PP - please don't keep implying that I am stupid. " - ha ha dave we are all stupid according to the pan dimensional hyper being that is PP.

[davebro]

At least most of the rest of us can string together one or two intelligible sentences.

[ToraToraTora]

It's AB's version of care in the community dave.

[Old_Geezer]

It is a question of belief/faith that the dead don't know they're dead. The majority of humanity believes in some kind of continuation, and this seems supported by many NDEs reported. It may be that after the deed has been done the executed individual thanks you profusely for getting them in to heaven that bit quicker.