Any Abers Agree .

[gulliver1]

The Conservatives deserve to be "Smashed " into political oblivion at the next election says Richard Tice, leader of the Reform UK party.
He would never even consider doing another deal with the Tories to keep Labour out of power. Saying he still bears the scars from the 2019 pact that Nigel Farage agreed with Johnson to get him elected and get Brexit done.

[Zacs-Master]

He'd have to take significantly more votes from one major party than the other for it to affect the result.

[naomi24]

//Mighty oaks from little acorns grow. //

I doubt you'll get as much as a sprig from him, Khandro.

[gulliver1]

Wonder how much of the taxpayers money is now being syphoned off via The Con Crony Club into offshore accounts alongside Baroness Money for when the Tory mps are members of the opposition Party.

[youngmafbog]

Not true though is it Ich?

For instance the liberals are not likely to affect the Tory vote.

Like it or not Reform does seem to be gathering a following, if I was Sunak I wouldn't cast them out as easy as you seem to be doing. Those that want a proper conservative Government rather than a bunch of CINO's may well decide to poke the current bunch in the eye.

And no, I wont be doing that.

[Khandro]

I don't think anyone voting for Reform UK is naïve enough to think there would be because of it any great effect on leadership, but, a decent number of votes might send a message to those of both parties living in torpor.
And, given the right conditions, they might even get a seat in Parliament.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64164535

[gulliver1]

Problem with Conservatism is
"They aways run out of other peoples money"
"It's quite a characteristic of them"

[bazwillrun]

The juvenile from Lilliput and his pathological obsession.....even a five year old could post links...

[gulliver1]

The UK is once again "The sick man of Europe"
......History repeating itself

[Hopkirk]

These threads remind me of football terrace chanting.

We're the best team there has ever been, and you're the worst.

You're going to get your *** heads kicked in.

[ToraToraTora]

"You're going to get your *** heads kicked in. " - like Sir Beer in PMQs?

[youngmafbog]

The real problems is we dont have Conservatives in power, we have neo liberals. Its New labour Mk2.

[ToraToraTora]

I share some of your CINO concerns YMB but I'd still rather have the Tories than Sir Beer and co.

[rowanwitch]

I would prefer it if they had a smaller majority, might make them a little more cautious, On balance I would still vote Conservative for lack of a decent alternative.

[youngmafbog]

Believe me I want the Tories in Power.

But the current bunch, with a few exceptions such as Patel, Badenoch, Braverman, IDS & JRM, they are not Tories they are liberals, spending like them, taxing like them, net zero rubbish to the determent of all, liberal Justice system, liberal immigration policies the list goes on. At this point in time I really dont think Sir Kier would be massively different.

If it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

Bring back the Conservatives, if it takes Sir Kier to get in for a term then so be it. That might just be the prompt to kick the liberals back to their own party.

[gulliver1]

YMB @ 13.01.. Oh dear you seem very confused.

[William51]

The Tories are running out of answers for the UKs problems and it is time for someone else to take over.