Junior Doctor Strike - Good For Them??

[Prudie]

I'm open to be educated here but doctors on strike today and asking for a 35% pay increase. My question is really that nearly 70% of the country are supporting their action. Why is it so popular. Is it because we think they deserve such an increase or is it partly to support any group that helps to topple the government?

[MissTerious2]

Basically, I wouldnt dream of going on strike if it endangered people's health or life. I couldn't live with it. Simple as that!

[vulcan42]

Surely they all knew what was involved financially before applying to be a doctor?

[Untitled]

yes but doctors did rather save our bacon during the pandemic didn't they

[jno]

how so? Nobody in any job knows, for instance, what the chancellor's going to do with taxes.

[jno]

that was for vulcan

[Untitled]

they aren't asking to be paid like CEOs vulcan

[Prudie]

It's probably another thread but how exactly did doctors save our bacon during the pandemic??

[nicebloke1]

They didn't we saved theirs by stopping at home, now they've rewarded use by going on strike.

[Untitled]

"how exactly did doctors save our bacon during the pandemic?? "

treating huge numbers of patients in critical condition in circumstances that were extremely high-pressure and dangerous for their own health... health workers had to treat the virus at a time when very little was known about it and there were dire shortages of PPE in part due to government cuts. we would have been up *** creek without them.

[Ellipsis]

* You're selfish
** No, you're selfish

[gness]

Tell that to the families of the over 200 health care workers who died of Covid, Nicebloke.
We didn't save their bloody bacon did we!

[naomi24]

Yes, we’re very grateful for what they did during the pandemic but, tugging at heartstrings aside, the reality is everything has to be paid for, too many people have their hands out, and 35% is simply not realistic.

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[237SJ]

They won't get a 35% pay rise They know that. Unions always ask for a high % knowing that everyone will meet in the middle.

[New Judge]

//Tell that to the families of the over 200 health care workers who died of Covid, Nicebloke.
We didn't save their bloody bacon did we!//

No we didn’t. But before we seek out those families, there’s a few more to consider. If you look at the dataset in this article from the ONS:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/datasets/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales

You will see Covid deaths (per 100,000) in E&W from March to December 2020, tabulated by major occupational groups. There are 25 groups and health professionals feature at No.16. The death rate among transport drivers was six times as high as among health professionals and three times as high among skilled metal and electrical workers. Of course, any death is tragic. But the health professionals were by no means top of the league when it comes to deaths from Covid. But this probably stems from the almost pathological and (in my view) incomprehensible beatification the NHS enjoys. Everybody idolises the nurses, but nobody thinks of the bus drivers.

Here's the list:

1. Transport and mobile machine drivers and operatives
2. Elementary administration and service occupations
3. Skilled metal, electrical and electronic trades
4. Skilled construction and building trades
5. Corporate managers and directors
6. Process, plant and machine operatives
7. Other managers and proprietors
8. Elementary trades and related occupations
9. Caring personal service occupations
10. Textiles, printing and other skilled trades
11. Administrative occupations:
12. Business and public service associate professionals
13. Business, media and public service professionals
14. Science, research, engineering and technology professionals
15. Sales occupations
16. Health professionals
17. Protective service occupations
18. Teaching and educational professionals
19. Leisure, travel and related personal service occupations
20. Culture, media and sports occupations
21. Skilled agricultural and related trades
22. Science, Engineering and technology associate professionals
23. Health and social care associate professionals
24. Customer service occupations
25. Secretarial and related occupations

[Deskdiary]

^^^Ouch.

NJ drop his mike exits stage left.

[naomi24]

And to thunderous applause ...