Are The Wheels Comming Off........?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-asked-to-resign-by-two-labour-council-leaders-over-gaza-ceasefire-stance-12999131

Looks like the Hamas/Israel conflict could be claiming another victim as the age old Labour pathogen strikes again. If Labour are shown to be riddled with pro terrorist types what will it do to their election chances?

[ichkeria]

I doubt it: disagreements over a non-domestic topic are unlikely to make too many waves. Especially as an election is over a year away and the issue of a Gaza ceasefire is likely to be a short lived one. Councillors calling for the leader to resign says more about them.

If Sir Keir did back calls for a ceasefire he'd be on a hiding to nothing as plainly there isn't going to be one so he'd just look ineffectual.

[youngmafbog]

Both main party's are riddled with people who shouldnt be in them, people who coulnt get voted in if they were in a party they belong so they hijack one of the two main ones.

SKS just needs to sit tight, demonstrate he has a pair and will make decisions and stand by them.  If he does capitulate to them then his days as a politician are numbered. 

[fender62]

should have asked beer starmer his thoughts on the islamic party rejection by the electoral commission, i assume muslims feel dejected by labours stance on starmers no cease fire, and to think, elections are next year, the world is having a financial crisis across the board, labour let's print money.

https://eutoday.net/party-of-islam-uk/

[andy-hughes]

Ich - Sir Keir should be supporting a cease fire demand because it is the morally right thing to do, not avoiding it because it being ignored may impact on his image.

His image is not the issue - unless he chooses to damage it himself by refusing to do the right thing. 

[naomi24]

A ceasefire needs two sides to agree - otherwise one side is still attacking and the other side becomes nothing more than an easy target.  Has Hamas agreed to a ceasefire?

[youngmafbog]

//Sir Keir should be supporting a cease fire demand because it is the morally right thing to do//

I disagree, maybe if you worded it as a ceasefire request I might have more sympathy but IMHO Israel has the right to eliminate the possibilty of another terrorist attack like the last murders.  Sir Kier appears to be taking this stance too and I applaud him for it.

[youngmafbog]

//Has Hamas agreed to a ceasefire?//

Hamas only have one aim and it isnt to appease or give in to the Israelis, many of them have publicly stated this.

So no, they wont agree to this anymore than they would agree to a two states peace agreement.

[ichkeria]

"Sir Keir should be supporting a cease fire demand because it is the morally right thing to do, not avoiding it because it being ignored may impact on his image"

The morally right thing "in your opinion". Like I said before, he cant win on this: he should do what he thinks is the Right Thing. My belief is that not calling for a ceasefire IS the right thing. Whether that's the reason he is nit calling for one I can't know for certain, but I doubt that his "image" will avoid being tainted in the eyes of some no matter what he does. And I don't see the point in him calling for one when it's not going to happen.

Secretary Blinken IMO is also doing the right thing: going to Israel in person to try to prevail on America's friends to fight the evil of Hamas in a less obviously brutal way via a vis civilian casualties. 
 

[naomi24]

YMB, 15.19.  Precisely.  Calling for a ceasefire is irrational.

[Canary42]

Conservative also shown to be riddled with terrorist types - in fact they gave one such organisation £5bn of taxpayers money to get their support in Parliament.

[Deskdiary]

The wheels are coming of, but in a perverse way I feel a bit sorry him.

Sir Kier doesn't have a single policy that anybody can identify  with, he's a complete lightweight and changes his tune as frequently as I change my underwear.

Did anybody see his cringeworthy podcast about Muslim Month?

He's a ***.

And by the way, why do Muslim's need a month?

SKS is one of those *** politians who will preach white is black if it gets a vote.

Stupid people will fall for it.

[ynnafymmi]

Probably not 3T.By the time of the next election the scourge of Palestinian terrorism and their anti-semitic allies will be purged from the face of the earth.Hopefully the Hamas terrorists and their apologists will be burning in hell by the time of the next election.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, but enough about the SNP, eh. 

[ynnafymmi]

Even the SNP arent stupid enough to voice support for the Hamas terrorists Zacs.I see that Celtic have also had enough of their terrorist apologists,the Green Brigade.Not before time.