Didn't Think South Africa Was As Soft As Us On Murdering Savages.

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67885713

 

[andy-hughes]

I'm unsure what reponse you want or expect Tora.

Their legal system has operated within its systems, your personal opinion of the offender is really just that, and has been noted.

[ToraToraTora]

Well RSA hasn't got much going for it but I thought they at least new how long to lock murderers up. Just thought a discusion might ensue.

[JDavis]

TTT,

From what I read of events, he did seem to get off lightly.

[andy-hughes]

It depends what you call 'lightly' - the comprehensive destruction of his career and personal reputation, several years of lost liberty, and the prospect of life where everyone he meets will be thinking only of what he did, and the endless consequences for an innocent family of an innocent woman.

It may not be the full sentence he was given, but I'm not sure it's 'getting off lightly' either.

[ladybirder]

I wonder if he'll manage to get another girlfriend!

[ToraToraTora]

12:31 He got off lightly for takling a life. He still has a sizeable chunk of his life left. More than can be said for Ms Steenkamp.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // 12:31 He got off lightly for takling a life. He still has a sizeable chunk of his life left. More than can be said for Ms Steenkamp. //

That applies to anyone who lives one second or more longer than their victim.

My point is, it's how that life is going to be lived that is the point, not the obvious and pointless observation that the murderer remans alive and the victim does not - that's how murder works.

[ToraToraTora]

Stop it with the sanctimonious row locks Andy I know what happens.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Stop it with the sanctimonious row locks Andy I know what happens. //

There is nothing 'sanctimonious' in my point TTT.

If your dominant sense of self-righteousness prevents you from acknowledging simple facts, and working around them in your pronouncements, that's your problem.

[youngmafbog]

Jeez AH, are you for real?

 

Bloke should have swung for it.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - // Jeez AH, are you for real? //

Always, one hundred per cent.

// Bloke should have swung for it. //

 

I disagree, but that decision has been made by people whose job it is to sort these things out. 

[Peter Pedant]

Just thought a discusion might ensue.

yup - their legal system is Roman Dutch and stayed as such while Holland went onto Napoleonic Code and then passed onto something else

Princess Hooli-arner was actually sent to do Auncient Law at Stellenbosch which I think was Roman Dutch. ( Juliana)

Now this morning, R4 had a legal expert trying to tell us what went on. Clearly they dont have manslaughter by gross negligence which  is a common law thing. Now the SPanith do have homocidio doloso as a parallel to Manslaughter

But SHE said it was 'dolus eventualis' ( erk? what?) and that he must have foreseen death as a result of hammering four bullets into a closed bog door.

and THEN said on appeal - they upped it to murder. which I dont think you can do in English Law....