The Perils Of Privatisation - Part X
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anotheroldgit
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I follow the threads posted by this gentleman with interest, but I have to say - and have said before, that they do seem to follow a distinct pattern -
AOG seems to scour the press for instances of Muslims committing almost any crime he can find, whereupon he posts a link on here, and then gets stroppy with anyone who fails to agree with him, citing them as either
a) humourless
b) left-wing
c) namby-pamby pacifists
d) rude to him
I have personally ticked all those boxes at various times - sometimes two or more!
Does anyone else agree that AOG is a gentleman of a certain age who feels his grievences against other nations and faiths are legitimate, based on his wartime experiences, but that he displays a curmudgeonly aproach to anyone who attempts to debate his points, or take a different stance?
Maybe he needs to accept that the world has changed, and is changing, and that just because people don't rant and rave about aspects of the law which defend foreigners as well as citizens does not make them a bunch of lilly-livered lentil-steamers who would allow the country to be taken over tomorrow.
Tolerance is a wonderful thing AOG - what do others thing?
BTW - I apologise in advance to AOG if he takes offence at this post, although if he does, it rarther proves my point.
AOG seems to scour the press for instances of Muslims committing almost any crime he can find, whereupon he posts a link on here, and then gets stroppy with anyone who fails to agree with him, citing them as either
a) humourless
b) left-wing
c) namby-pamby pacifists
d) rude to him
I have personally ticked all those boxes at various times - sometimes two or more!
Does anyone else agree that AOG is a gentleman of a certain age who feels his grievences against other nations and faiths are legitimate, based on his wartime experiences, but that he displays a curmudgeonly aproach to anyone who attempts to debate his points, or take a different stance?
Maybe he needs to accept that the world has changed, and is changing, and that just because people don't rant and rave about aspects of the law which defend foreigners as well as citizens does not make them a bunch of lilly-livered lentil-steamers who would allow the country to be taken over tomorrow.
Tolerance is a wonderful thing AOG - what do others thing?
BTW - I apologise in advance to AOG if he takes offence at this post, although if he does, it rarther proves my point.
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Being honest, I have tried to have rational arguments with AOG, however if you ask anything that he finds impossible to answer (as common sense indicates that he is being irrational) he just ignores the post or doesn't bother coming back to his question.
Whilst I used to come on the site fairly frequently, I tend to not bother as much since it is the same old person (pun intended) asking the same old question.
Whilst I used to come on the site fairly frequently, I tend to not bother as much since it is the same old person (pun intended) asking the same old question.
I tried to answer the points raised by andy-hughes's, although I did think it rather strange for him to post a question addressed to me under the topic news.
It is interesting to note that to date he hasn't had the courtesy to reply to me, or should I have raised another thread entitled andy-hughes.
It is interesting to note that to date he hasn't had the courtesy to reply to me, or should I have raised another thread entitled andy-hughes.
oneeyedvic
Well it seems that I have inevitably upset you in some way, if I have then I apologise.
But I must protest when you accuse me of ignoring your posts or not coming back to my question.
I have gone back on recent posts and replied to you and have even joined in many times on posts that you have set.
The only one that I do not appear to have done so is on your following post.
Hey, I'm not the one who collects mementos of Nazi memorabilia.
No answer needed to this rather pointless jab at me.
If we had not gone to war with Germany, are you really naive enough to believe that Herr Hitler would not have put the safety of the British people at risk?
Your reply
There is a big difference between an invading army and criminals in the street.
We went to war to stop an army. We didn't go to war to stop thugs in the street.
This part I couldn't understand, because 'the thugs on the street' wasn't under discussion.
But then you were there so I thought you would have know that.
This was just another pointless sarcastic remark from you, which in turn did not warrant a reply from me.
Still haven't answered my question though - who exactly is laughing at us?
Ah! at last a question that I failed to answer, but then I didn't need to, because if you check I had already said 'we are the laughing stock of the world'
Therefore your question had already been answered i.e.
THE WORLD.
I hope this has cleared things up for you?
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Well it seems that I have inevitably upset you in some way, if I have then I apologise.
But I must protest when you accuse me of ignoring your posts or not coming back to my question.
I have gone back on recent posts and replied to you and have even joined in many times on posts that you have set.
The only one that I do not appear to have done so is on your following post.
Hey, I'm not the one who collects mementos of Nazi memorabilia.
No answer needed to this rather pointless jab at me.
If we had not gone to war with Germany, are you really naive enough to believe that Herr Hitler would not have put the safety of the British people at risk?
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There is a big difference between an invading army and criminals in the street.
We went to war to stop an army. We didn't go to war to stop thugs in the street.
This part I couldn't understand, because 'the thugs on the street' wasn't under discussion.
But then you were there so I thought you would have know that.
This was just another pointless sarcastic remark from you, which in turn did not warrant a reply from me.
Still haven't answered my question though - who exactly is laughing at us?
Ah! at last a question that I failed to answer, but then I didn't need to, because if you check I had already said 'we are the laughing stock of the world'
Therefore your question had already been answered i.e.
THE WORLD.
I hope this has cleared things up for you?
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The World?
This is the sort of pointless argument I mean.
Are you talking about Mrs Smith who lives in Florida?
Are you talking about the government of the USA?
Are you seriously talking about the 4 billion inhabitants of the world less the 60 odd million who live here?
How about the millions of people starving to death? Do you think they stand around street corners having a good old laugh about the stupid British?
As I said, you come up with completely non nonsensical answers and questions and then repeat yourself.
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We went to war to stop an army. We didn't go to war to stop thugs in the street.
This part I couldn't understand, because 'the thugs on the street' wasn't under discussion.
Yes it was - my response was to Chinadog who said: People are scared to go out at night for fear of being attacked. Knife crime is at an all time high why? because the law's to bloody lenient. My dad also fought in the war for a better and safer place. If he was alive now he woud be thinking "why the hell did we bother"?"
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With reference to questions that you have not answered here is a recent example
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question71 0758.html
This is the sort of pointless argument I mean.
Are you talking about Mrs Smith who lives in Florida?
Are you talking about the government of the USA?
Are you seriously talking about the 4 billion inhabitants of the world less the 60 odd million who live here?
How about the millions of people starving to death? Do you think they stand around street corners having a good old laugh about the stupid British?
As I said, you come up with completely non nonsensical answers and questions and then repeat yourself.
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We went to war to stop an army. We didn't go to war to stop thugs in the street.
This part I couldn't understand, because 'the thugs on the street' wasn't under discussion.
Yes it was - my response was to Chinadog who said: People are scared to go out at night for fear of being attacked. Knife crime is at an all time high why? because the law's to bloody lenient. My dad also fought in the war for a better and safer place. If he was alive now he woud be thinking "why the hell did we bother"?"
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With reference to questions that you have not answered here is a recent example
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question71 0758.html
AOG,
I was sad to read we had parted company, this was news to me. This is entirely a unilateral decision on your part, I will continue to put you right when you post stuff that is wrong.
To answer to the question, so what. We all have subjects that interest us, AOGs area of expertise is immigation. So what, if his responses follow a pattern. He can post whatever he wants, and I see no reason he is deserving of a patronizing lecture from andy-Hughes.
I was sad to read we had parted company, this was news to me. This is entirely a unilateral decision on your part, I will continue to put you right when you post stuff that is wrong.
To answer to the question, so what. We all have subjects that interest us, AOGs area of expertise is immigation. So what, if his responses follow a pattern. He can post whatever he wants, and I see no reason he is deserving of a patronizing lecture from andy-Hughes.
I must now try to contain my anger.
I assume that when I post on this site I am entering into sensible adult debate. But the more you post the more I am beginning to doubt this.
I think most rational posters on this site will understand where I am coming from.
Take for instant this little gem:
'we are the laughing stock of the world'
WHO is laughing at us?
I mean. Are you talking about Mrs Smith who lives in Florida?
Are you talking about the government of the USA?
In this context I expect others to automatically assume that this is not to be taken literally.
To try and make you understand this once again.
The World in general I mean, how the hell could anyone knock on every door, every hut, every tent, every cave etc etc etc. in the World and ask 'are you laughing at us' (no but there will be many laughing at you Oneeye)
my response was to Chinadog who said: People are scared to go out at night for fear of being attacked
Then why did you not address your comment to Chinadog?
I do not think I will waste my time any longer, with someone who cannot pick up the simple rudiments.
I assume that when I post on this site I am entering into sensible adult debate. But the more you post the more I am beginning to doubt this.
I think most rational posters on this site will understand where I am coming from.
Take for instant this little gem:
'we are the laughing stock of the world'
WHO is laughing at us?
I mean. Are you talking about Mrs Smith who lives in Florida?
Are you talking about the government of the USA?
In this context I expect others to automatically assume that this is not to be taken literally.
To try and make you understand this once again.
The World in general I mean, how the hell could anyone knock on every door, every hut, every tent, every cave etc etc etc. in the World and ask 'are you laughing at us' (no but there will be many laughing at you Oneeye)
my response was to Chinadog who said: People are scared to go out at night for fear of being attacked
Then why did you not address your comment to Chinadog?
I do not think I will waste my time any longer, with someone who cannot pick up the simple rudiments.
Gromit
I am not a person to hold a grudge, I am really not. But talking into account the fact that you where unaware of the situation, in this instance I am prepared to explain.
Over the months I have debated with you over many subjects with opposite viewpoints, but you have for some reason not been very courteous towards me.
I have pointed this out to you many, many times but you seem adamant to continue with this practice, you latest insult was to call me senile.
Oh! another failing of yours is you try to give the impression that you are somewhat superior to the rest of us. You may be quite good at delving into and posting links, no matter from what bias source or however old.
A prime example of your arrogance
I will continue to put you right when you post stuff that is wrong
Wrong from your view point, but this is strictly your opinion Gromit, and you are perfectly within your rights to express your opinions, but they are not necessarily the right ones.
I am not a person to hold a grudge, I am really not. But talking into account the fact that you where unaware of the situation, in this instance I am prepared to explain.
Over the months I have debated with you over many subjects with opposite viewpoints, but you have for some reason not been very courteous towards me.
I have pointed this out to you many, many times but you seem adamant to continue with this practice, you latest insult was to call me senile.
Oh! another failing of yours is you try to give the impression that you are somewhat superior to the rest of us. You may be quite good at delving into and posting links, no matter from what bias source or however old.
A prime example of your arrogance
I will continue to put you right when you post stuff that is wrong
Wrong from your view point, but this is strictly your opinion Gromit, and you are perfectly within your rights to express your opinions, but they are not necessarily the right ones.
I do not think I will waste my time any longer, with someone who cannot pick up the simple rudiments.
What like simple lies and exaggerations - or would you prefer to call it something else.
So you make an assertion that you don't agree with something and back it up by saying that everyone agrees with you and everyone is laughing at those that make the decisions.
Adult debate usually centres around opinions, facts and figures. If you prefer, you can go with childish comments like "Everyone is laughing at us" which is plainly not true..
Then why did you not address your comment to Chinadog? - I quoted Chinadog in my response - just like I am doing now. Fairly obviously (I would have thought), I am now replying to you. Is this difficult for you to figure out. Just in case you can't work it out, I am replying to you AOG, not to Andyhughes, the originator of this question.
Amazing how you also seem to have not replied to the question about 'paying to be gay' as well.
What like simple lies and exaggerations - or would you prefer to call it something else.
So you make an assertion that you don't agree with something and back it up by saying that everyone agrees with you and everyone is laughing at those that make the decisions.
Adult debate usually centres around opinions, facts and figures. If you prefer, you can go with childish comments like "Everyone is laughing at us" which is plainly not true..
Then why did you not address your comment to Chinadog? - I quoted Chinadog in my response - just like I am doing now. Fairly obviously (I would have thought), I am now replying to you. Is this difficult for you to figure out. Just in case you can't work it out, I am replying to you AOG, not to Andyhughes, the originator of this question.
Amazing how you also seem to have not replied to the question about 'paying to be gay' as well.
Oneeyedvic
Amazing how you also seem to have not replied to the question about 'paying to be gay' as well.
I have not the time or inclination to reply to each and every point that every poster on Answer Bank lays before me.
Just as I haven't time or resources to knock on the world's doors and ask them if they are laughing at us.
Please be forewarned that I will not be replying to anymore of your posts, unless they contain points that are open for sensible debate.
At least my time with you hasn't been all wasted because it has left you open for ridicule by most of the more mature thinking ABers.
Amazing how you also seem to have not replied to the question about 'paying to be gay' as well.
I have not the time or inclination to reply to each and every point that every poster on Answer Bank lays before me.
Just as I haven't time or resources to knock on the world's doors and ask them if they are laughing at us.
Please be forewarned that I will not be replying to anymore of your posts, unless they contain points that are open for sensible debate.
At least my time with you hasn't been all wasted because it has left you open for ridicule by most of the more mature thinking ABers.
So you can't even admit when you are totally wrong and misleading about something.
And you can't be bothered to reply to any of the answers on your original question - not just mine. http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question71 0758.html
Is it because you actually have no sensible response and can't answer the questions?
Or that you can answer and posts more questions to hide your own ignorance.
I am sure that you will be pleased that there is no need to bother answering - it's a rhetorical question.
And you can't be bothered to reply to any of the answers on your original question - not just mine. http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question71 0758.html
Is it because you actually have no sensible response and can't answer the questions?
Or that you can answer and posts more questions to hide your own ignorance.
I am sure that you will be pleased that there is no need to bother answering - it's a rhetorical question.
Oh, Andy.
Don't you realise how much he'll be salivating at the thought of all this attention? As he suggests himself, he judges his posts not on how rational or persuasive they are, but on how many responses they generate. That's pure narcissism.
If he were still physically able, he'll be hunched in front of the computer pleasuring himself into a frenzy as he reads this thread.
Oh, and can we all drop this making friends and breaking friends palaver? We're not 8 years old.
Don't you realise how much he'll be salivating at the thought of all this attention? As he suggests himself, he judges his posts not on how rational or persuasive they are, but on how many responses they generate. That's pure narcissism.
If he were still physically able, he'll be hunched in front of the computer pleasuring himself into a frenzy as he reads this thread.
Oh, and can we all drop this making friends and breaking friends palaver? We're not 8 years old.
Good morning AOG,
Apologies for the delay in my response - it is certainly not due to lack of courtesy - only the fact that I am without the benefit of the levels of of free time that you appear to enjoy - in common with a lot of AB'ers, I still have to work to support my family, and that is the reason for the time taken to respond.
It is interesting that you leap to a conclusion without asking - a facet of personality that colours your questions and responses.
I posted this Question in News because that is where the majority of your posts are to be found.
If you wish to start a post with my name, please feel free.
Apologies for the delay in my response - it is certainly not due to lack of courtesy - only the fact that I am without the benefit of the levels of of free time that you appear to enjoy - in common with a lot of AB'ers, I still have to work to support my family, and that is the reason for the time taken to respond.
It is interesting that you leap to a conclusion without asking - a facet of personality that colours your questions and responses.
I posted this Question in News because that is where the majority of your posts are to be found.
If you wish to start a post with my name, please feel free.
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