Why the hatred against religion?

[JockSporran]

Please, please, please I don't want to hear the usual ranty arguments against the existence of God or afterlife, I just want to know why the hatred against religious belief. Nobody today is forced to go to church and the Church no longer sets the standards or forms the opinions of our society, so what's the problem? Why the anti-religious posters on the sides of buses? Why does this ant-religious sentiment continue at all?

[mariner2]

However many hundred religions there are - if you don't believe in their exact version, they say you are going to hell.
Come on chaps, think about it . . . . . can you spot the flaw?

[Octavius]

But if you don�t believe in heaven, and you don�t believe in hell, whatever they say to you in respect of these is irrelevant to you isn�t it? They might as well say that when you die that you�ll end up in the ground as worm food. Would you be equally perturbed?

[mibn2cweus]

. . . if one believes that consciousness persists beyond life than that is precisely the sort of post-life experience one should reasonably expect.

[mariner2]

The thread was asking why the anti-religious sentiment and I was giving my reasons.
Don't you think that Jehovah's witnesses coming to your door (as someone stated above) and saying you are bound for hell if you don't let Jesus rule your life is both ludicrous and offensive?

[brionon]

Octavius says-''Can you provide any recent examples of how they have decided on our laws with any detrimental effect? '' What an idiotic question. What matters it what the effect is or was ? THEY rule over us without our consent !! Gotit ?

[Octavius]

Ok, onion, give me any examples of when they voted at ALL.

ALL the Lords rule over us without our consent, it seems a rather childish and dim remark.

[Octavius]

mariner, fair enough.

To be perfectly honest, I have only had one pair of JWs come to my door in 5 years as I have said previously, and other than trying to push the watchtower into my hand, they never even mentioned hell.

Are you saying that they actually told you that?

[mariner2]

No, I was quoting from someone else further up this thread, but this is what most, or at least some, religious people believe and it's just so wrong, and it's one of the reasons I am anti-religious.
Another closely related reason is the Catholic practice of "wiping the slate clean" with a confession, no matter what the crime, then you'll be OK for the pearly gates. But not me apparently, even though I've got nothing to confess to.
I have a problem with people that believe things like this, and it makes me anti-religious.

[Octavius]

I wasn�t being pernickety mariner, its just that in all my years, the only time I have heard someone tell me that I am going to hell, was when I caught a glimpse of one those American Evangelists on TV, although I didn�t really think he was talking to me personally, only God does that (!)

Have you ever wondered about that last judgement/ confess all your sins at the last minute thing? I mean, I certainly have. Do you really believe that?

[mariner2]

Well, what do you think is going to happen to me when I die?

[Octavius]

I don't know. Maybe you will end up either wandering or fertilising the Elysian Fields.

[brionon]

Octavius doesn't care that we are ruled partially by un-elected peers. Of course she doesn't . So many English are just natural Serfs.

[eltbus]

It is a matter of faith, and faith as we know, means belief. everyone to their own, and good luck to them.

[123everton]

I'd have more time for Lord's reform by making the second chamber elected, if we could inspire people to vote in the elections we already have never mind adding another load to vote for.
If we got rid of the Queen then we could end up with presedential elections, parliamentary elections, lord's elections, mayoral elections and council elrctions.
Given the levels of voter apathy currently, how much appetite is there for change?