1911 census site

[paddywak]

Just been on this site and found a few usefull bits but was wondering about "Viewing The Original Page" Just what does this page show and does the info on it just apply to the that one person line at lhre LH of the or all the family. I'd like to know a bit more before going any further and using up my remaining credits

[dot.haukes]

the information you see is actually the original census return page that the (usually) head of house has filled in in their own hand and signed themselves, first time this was done as previous ones were filled in from sheets into enumerators books by the enumerator.
From the transcript to the original there is not alot of difference in the details of the individuals but you are able to double check the quality of the transcription, and of course report any errors. You can look at how long people were married and how many children were born during the marriage and how many were still alive and how manyt had died, Ithis is off the top of my head actually but i think that is correct.)
Because of that sort of aditional info it can help narrow down searches for marriages in the gro and of course there may be chil;dren on there that were not known about and they can lead to some interesting information.
If it is your direct family, it is wqorth going to the original copy as this is a really special part of your family history and is a snapshot showing probably for the last time millions of young men who a few years later were lost during the first world war.

[dot.haukes]

hi, just had a quick look and found you this article from Family Tree Magazine:
http://www.yourfamilytreemag.co.uk/page/yft?en try=what_does_a_1911_census

[paddywak]

Thanks dot. I'm still only playing around at the moment when I've got the odd half hour spare so any info is handy

[paddywak]

dot. can you please give me some info. I have managed to find my grandparents in the 1911 census, but they were both born in Ireland (Dublin and Sligo) so were do I go now?how do I go about finding deatils of people born abroad,is there a central records office where I can get copies of birth // mariage certificates etc

[dot.haukes]

They may have been born in Ireland but possibly they married over here, which means you can obtain their marriage certificate and that will help give you their respective father's names. On the 1911 census were they already married and living together or have you found them living as single people with their families?
Have you found them or their family living in England on the 1901 census? I would need to know their ages really to advise on what Irish records you can look at.
Most Irish census returns were destroyed in a fire in Dublin in 1922, but over the years a great deal of effort has been put into compiling alternative sources for research.

This is a good site that gives you an outline of civil sources:
http://www.groireland.ie/history.htm#THE%20BEG INNINGS%20OF%20REGISTRATION

For census substitutes of Dublin this link shows the sparsity:
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/coun ties/leinster/dublin1.htm

You should look at all the members of the family to see if amy of them prior to 1911 were already in England.

[paddywak]

Dot, the info on the 1911 census page is as follows :-
Durkin Edward-age 36-Blast Furnace Labourer-Born Mayo Resident
Durkin Beatrice-age 37 Born Dublin Resident
Durkin Edward-age 6 Born Leeds
Durkin Agnes-age 2 Born Leeds
Feeby Patrick-age 40-BuildersLabourer-Born Sligo Resident
Patrick is Beatrice's brother/cousin as we know Freeby was Beatrices maiden name.
I've looked in the 1901 census and found no sign of either of them or any sign of a marriage certificate but as I've said I'm a novice at this game so I'm probabley not looking in the right places

[dot.haukes]

did you check the children born of this marriage column, were these the only 2 children? they were both quite abit older than usual when the 6 year old was born. i wonder if they had other children, can you check that column on the 1911?
It is possible they married in the leeds area, that should be easy enough to check on the GRO index of marriages for England . If you have not used the GRO index much remember that each year is divided upo into 4 quarters and within each quarter you must find both the bride and groom with the exact same reference number along side their name.

[dot.haukes]

could edward durkin have died in 1917 in Leeds? found a death of an edward durkin in leeds then born 1873.

[paddywak]

The six year old was my father and he very rarely talked about his family and chilldhood, in fact the only things either myself or my two sisters can remember him saying was that he was born in Leeds and that he only had one sister, Agnes, who died quite young.Nothing at all about when and where his parents and sister died,causes of death or where they were buried even my uncles and aunts on my mothers side seemed quite ignorant of his past. Any way Dot thanks for your help and the web sites, no doubt I shall be picking your brains again in the near future