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It's pretty clear that whatever government is elected next year there will be cuts in public spending.
However there are rumours that the Tories are still at least considering cutting if not abolishing inheritance cuts.
Do you think it would be acceptable to cut inheritance tax at the same time as cutting spending on education?
And if so do you have any kids at state schools?
Particularly interested in Tory opinion
However there are rumours that the Tories are still at least considering cutting if not abolishing inheritance cuts.
Do you think it would be acceptable to cut inheritance tax at the same time as cutting spending on education?
And if so do you have any kids at state schools?
Particularly interested in Tory opinion
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Well I don't think much to inheritance tax jake. To me it's getting penalised for working hard all your life and paying your taxes only for your kids to be robbed by double taxation. As far as I'm concerned I've already helped the state schools by paying for my daughter's private education which of course you can't claim tax relief on.
I really dont get the problem with inheritance tax. You will leave a child with more money than most of the population will be able to see in their lifetime and the person who owns the money will be dead to boot!
I thought conservatism was all about being able to go out and stand on your own 2 feet and make your own way in the world? bit of a contradiction there me thinks
I thought conservatism was all about being able to go out and stand on your own 2 feet and make your own way in the world? bit of a contradiction there me thinks
Jake, you take a couple of things in Isolation and make that sound like the only choices.
There are huge cuts that could be made that most of us wouldn't even notice. I mean who couldn't manage without a 5 a day coordinator or a diversity consultant?
to answer the question Education is that last thing you should cut. The first thing is the 600,000 nonsense town hall jobs that have been given to labour voters since 1997, then there's the gazillions we spend on work shy layabouts and the vast army of young girls who get themselves up the duff as a career move. Then you can cut the NHS budget to about half what it is by firing the 10 levels of uselesss empire building managers and assorted pen pushers, that should put 150bn in the kitty for a start.
Oh and I do have a kid in state education.
Inheritance tax is largely irrelevant compared to the savings outlined above. Make it 100% for all I care!
There are huge cuts that could be made that most of us wouldn't even notice. I mean who couldn't manage without a 5 a day coordinator or a diversity consultant?
to answer the question Education is that last thing you should cut. The first thing is the 600,000 nonsense town hall jobs that have been given to labour voters since 1997, then there's the gazillions we spend on work shy layabouts and the vast army of young girls who get themselves up the duff as a career move. Then you can cut the NHS budget to about half what it is by firing the 10 levels of uselesss empire building managers and assorted pen pushers, that should put 150bn in the kitty for a start.
Oh and I do have a kid in state education.
Inheritance tax is largely irrelevant compared to the savings outlined above. Make it 100% for all I care!
I think it would be a brave or foolish Conservative leader to cut spending on Health and Education while at the same time promising to assist the better off sections of our society with cuts to inheritance tax. I don't think the public are in the right frame of mind to swallow that and it could prove disastrous for the Tories. Many people do not want to vote Labour next time round, but could they possibly vote for the Tories under such circumstances? Personally, I doubt it.
I've just read R1Geezers post and realise I may not have thought deeply enough about my answer. As R1Geezer so rightly points out, if the cuts were aimed at waste, surplus and inefficiency, the Tories may well encourage enough people to vote for them. I would like to see details of how they could do this, as David Cameron is proving to be a bit of a waffler at present. I shall now eat humble pie!
Cuts are cuts.
I don't recall a single government in 30 years that didn't come in promising to improve efficiency and get the tax payer more for his money.
It's a something for nothing promise.
In any case any politician that tells you that they can pay for the public borrowing to sort out the banks in efficiency savings is a liar.
Even Osbourne's Fisher Price calculator will have told him that.
The Tories have claimed they will ring-fence health (we pretty much all use that - I've yet to see a BUPA A&E ambulance!)
But no such promises on Education.
So it seems fair to assume both sides will cut Education.
But Can the Tories still cut taxes like the "hated" inheritance tax - a previous pledge whilst still cutting things like education.
I don't care what "lefties" like me think.
Can they get away with it with their core supporters?
I don't recall a single government in 30 years that didn't come in promising to improve efficiency and get the tax payer more for his money.
It's a something for nothing promise.
In any case any politician that tells you that they can pay for the public borrowing to sort out the banks in efficiency savings is a liar.
Even Osbourne's Fisher Price calculator will have told him that.
The Tories have claimed they will ring-fence health (we pretty much all use that - I've yet to see a BUPA A&E ambulance!)
But no such promises on Education.
So it seems fair to assume both sides will cut Education.
But Can the Tories still cut taxes like the "hated" inheritance tax - a previous pledge whilst still cutting things like education.
I don't care what "lefties" like me think.
Can they get away with it with their core supporters?
Its unlikely Cameron will cut NHS given his background and recent events. As for inheitance tax why should the state gain because someone has scriped and saved.
Oh of course labour votors p*ss it all up the wal and expect the state to pay for their old age no wonder they have that attitude.
As R1 points our there is plenty of scope for cuts in the cr*p that noo labour have introduced. At least Osbourne has a calculator looks like Gordon was just plucking figures out the air !
Oh of course labour votors p*ss it all up the wal and expect the state to pay for their old age no wonder they have that attitude.
As R1 points our there is plenty of scope for cuts in the cr*p that noo labour have introduced. At least Osbourne has a calculator looks like Gordon was just plucking figures out the air !
Can I, as a floating voter, have a humble opinion, please?
Gromit has hit the nail on the head, i.e. the vast majority will not benefit by the above proposal but we will all feel the pinch regarding the inevitable cuts in public services.
Plus, regardless of the popular myth that Gordon Brown is responsible for the present worldwide recession, is it not just a teeny bit suspicious that the only way we've had a hint of Tory intentions was by way of a verbal faux pas on Radio 4 last week by Andrew Lansley?
Call me old fashioned, but I still believe in giving credence to well worn adages such as "better the devil you know" etc. Especially when you don't know what the "devil's" opponents have in store for you!
Education of our future generations should take priority every time over the bank balances of a fraction of a per cent of the population.
We've been taxed to the high heavens by both Labour and Tory, the only difference being the colour of the rosette. The priority however must always be to minimise the hurt to the majority and that cannot be achieved if the likes of inheritance tax is abolished in favour of cuts to the likes of priorities like health and education.
And until Mr Cameron emerges from his bunker waving his nation saving proposals and policies in our collective faces, then anyone entrusting him and his Party with their vote is taking a significant leap of faith into the abyss.
Gromit has hit the nail on the head, i.e. the vast majority will not benefit by the above proposal but we will all feel the pinch regarding the inevitable cuts in public services.
Plus, regardless of the popular myth that Gordon Brown is responsible for the present worldwide recession, is it not just a teeny bit suspicious that the only way we've had a hint of Tory intentions was by way of a verbal faux pas on Radio 4 last week by Andrew Lansley?
Call me old fashioned, but I still believe in giving credence to well worn adages such as "better the devil you know" etc. Especially when you don't know what the "devil's" opponents have in store for you!
Education of our future generations should take priority every time over the bank balances of a fraction of a per cent of the population.
We've been taxed to the high heavens by both Labour and Tory, the only difference being the colour of the rosette. The priority however must always be to minimise the hurt to the majority and that cannot be achieved if the likes of inheritance tax is abolished in favour of cuts to the likes of priorities like health and education.
And until Mr Cameron emerges from his bunker waving his nation saving proposals and policies in our collective faces, then anyone entrusting him and his Party with their vote is taking a significant leap of faith into the abyss.
Do you think Brown is planning for the next + 1 election? Cuts are not planned until Cameron takes over. During his period the cuts will be so severe, effecting every strand of government spending, people will long for the spendthrift ways of past Labour governments and vote them back in.
Inheritence tax is just a red herring and will not affect the economy one way or the other.
People, except rich foreigners, are removing their kids from fee paying schools in their thousands, now.
Inheritence tax is just a red herring and will not affect the economy one way or the other.
People, except rich foreigners, are removing their kids from fee paying schools in their thousands, now.
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