police statments

[nad13]

my boyfriend over took a car that seemed to be traveling rather slow , we was travelling at about 30-35mph, the car he over took was an unmarked police car , he was arrested for this and charged with dangerous driving (they are saying he was travelling to fast but they have no camera in car ). there were 3 officers in the car in there statements which were written 7 weeks after it happened after my boyfriend had already appeared in court ,all 3 statements by the police are word for word the only thing that is different are there names and the position in which they had been sitting in , they also said in there statments that i had said that we had bee arguing ( which we hadnt nor did i say this ) but in the interview they said had i stated that his driving was Sugar and nothing about the arguing .( surely thay would of said about the arguing in the interview as a reason for dangerous driving ). i actually only spoke to one officer but all 3 said this in there statements . there statements and what was said in interview differ. how reiliable is this and when is it that the police have to do there statements. i thought it would of had to be done before court i thought the cps needed to see all this before they decide to cahrge you, .and how can all there statemants be word for word. any fed back on this would be great thanks

[Hymie]

New Judge will answer this question shortly.

He no doubt comes across such situations on a daily basis.

I suspect New Judge’s take would be that the police officer’s statements are the same – because they experienced the same thing. You can’t argue with that logic, can you?

My take on the odds of three people independently writing exactly the same statements, without collusion – to be so astronomical that it would not occur once during the entire existence of the universe. Looks like your boyfriend (and many others, no doubt) has been very, very, very unlucky.

[bednobs]

i don't understand how you can be charged with dangerous driving, simply for overtaking someone?
overtaking per se is not dangerous, so unless he was doing it in a dangerous way or there is more than you are telling us he has a defence.
Also, isn't dangerous driving much worse than without due care and attention? It's an automatic ban if found guilty. Simply overtaking someone at 30 mph dosen't "fall far below the standard of a competant driver" There must be more to this than you are saying. And what's the point of asking for advice if you're just going to conceal the facts?

[nad13]

this is what happened . we over took the unmarked car next minute we knew a car pulled along side ours (as we was waiting in tarffic to pull out ) and the driver shouted ' oi you Fluffing Snag get over there ' and pointed at the street oppisite . they are trying to say he was speeding but there car had no camera in it else we could prove the speed he was going. as it stands there is no way of proving this, its their word against ours .

[Twenty20]

This is either a poor attempt at a wind up or there's plenty more to the story.

[ummmm]

What was the speed limit?

[jackthehat]

So, the police car was travelling at (probably bang-on) the speed limit for that road and your boyfriend overtook it ?

So, by definition, your boyfriend exceeded the speed-limit.

There will be more to the 'manner' in which he performed the manoeuvre that constituted the 'dangerous' part...

[IggyB]

I agree it will no doubt be the manner he was driving that constituted the danger rather than the speed - and just because its a motoring offence doesn't mean they need camera footage, if the police saw you smash a window it would still be their word against yours... the court will tend to side with the professional officers rather than you and your bf.

As for police statements these will just be template statements used by the officers to describe certain often seen situations .e.g just fill in the blanks to describe the problem and people, this could easily mean that many statements turn out very similar ... and as said they all saw the same thing so they would be similar anyway.

[nad13]

its ok now. the cps called his solicitor today and they arent doing the trial on tuesday but its now going to be a pre trail again as thay have offered him driving without due care and attention as he basically just over took them (as i did say before) . maybe you shouldnt so quick to judge , some people do actually tell the truth.