Andy Gray phone hacking payout

[joeluke]

.......a small victory for him over his former employer after the pathetic way they sacked him over a bit of sexist banter

Sexist banter that goes on in many workplaces countrywide, why can't women just have a laugh about it and give as good back?


http://uk.news.yahoo....20-000-123439446.html

[Davethedog]

Sqad PC is world wise in fact from what I have read we get off lightly in comparison to the US.

Flip_Flop if Gray took his case to tribunal he would lose. The original comment wasn't enough but the videpo clips show a sexist, bullying behaviour and would be gross misconduct.

From what I have read, and the media is suspect, Gray and Keys were hated not disliked but hated. Morale was appaling. The guy who actual did the sacking had been a runner or some other lowly type ten years ago and had made his way up through the ranks and therefore had first hand knowledge of whatever went on.

By all accounts they wern't just sexist but out and out bullies (allegedly) who felt they were untouchable.

[Zeuhl]

LOL joeluke

<<Yes, but it's not an ideal counter strike for being sacked is it?

Getting damages for having your voicemail hacked? (punches air on the way to Job Centre LOL) >>

I was speaking generally ... or hypothetically ... or some such ...

[emmie]

I would think that like my old company, you are given more than one warning, the first is verbal, and if things have not improved, a formal letter, and if it get to that stage, with no improvement of that employees behaviour then you are shown the door. I have known people sacked on the spot for sending inappropriate e mails to members of staff, they thought they were jokey, but the bosses did not, because it can lead to being sued for sexual harrasment.
If he got loads of money for the phone hacking scandal fine, good luck to the man.

[Sqad]

Dave....yes OK...that is the USA but what about the other countries that i have mentioned.

I was just interested.

[emmie]

sqad i do get your point, if she had been an auxilliary nurse its unlikely she would have done it, and in Australia women have had no choice but to brazen it out, it has been a very male dominated society. The ocker that Paul Hogan has played all these years is no joke, well its funny, but that attitude is or was entrenched. If you have been harrassed, bullied, for whatever reason, no matter the gender, that should not be tolerated. Joshing is one thing, we all do it, but you can be on the end of some really bad behaviour and have no one to turn to. I once had a bully for a boss, he was a bstard, everyone knew it, but no one did anything about it.
Many women don't report rape, sexual harrassment, bullying in the work place or out, because they don't think they will be believed.

[jno]

sorry I haven't been hanging on your every word. Sqad, I must be more diligent. Since you ask: it's found objectionable in the USA, Canada and to some extent Australia; it used to be unexceptionable in France but post-DSK is being taken very seriously indeed. I cannot speak for Rwanda, but you might well find standards there more to your liking.

[emmie]

the French press, politicians immediately leapt to DSK defence, even though apparently Sarkozy warned him privately that the Americans don't tolerate this type of bad behaviour, and where is he now, on bail for attempted rape.

[jno]

indeed he is, em, but despite the unstinting support of his (mostly male) poliltician chums, women in France are angry about it.

[emmie]

at his behaviour? I read somewhere that more French women are suing for divorce now, citing their husbands infidelities. not sure if that's true. Didn't Mitterand have a long term mistress and a love child, the press here would have a field day.

[Sqad]

jno....thank you for your reply but ruined by

<<< I cannot speak for Rwanda, but you might well find standards there more to your liking.>>>

a sarcastic an unnecessary comment.

[jno]

well, what do you think, Sqad? If you are irritated by countries where sexism is thought a bad thing, would you prefer a country where they've got bigger things to worry about, or not?