Technology

[SeaJayPea]

And not before time, in my opinion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk...football/15866363.stm

Any ideas?

[redman41]

It's bound to come sooner or later, it's just that FIFA are dragging their heels regarding Football Technology at the moment...

[Davethedog]

As long as it doesn't slow down or stop the flow of the game I have no real objection however, if it comes it will move onto penalties then fouls, making the game unwatchable therefore killing the game.

Before Sky started tearinf Refs apart it was fine, so now sky will kill the cash cow.

I say this as someone who has held a season ticket at a premier league ground for over 15 years and have been going a lot longer than that.

[Kayless]

How will it work? Ok so a shot crosses the line but the goal is not given, in the mean time someone decides it was a goal but also during that time they've scored at the other end, chaos ensues. Are they going to have some sort of "beep", cyclops style device that beeps at the ref? The only way this sort of stuff can work is when play is dead already, eg goals scored was it offside? I'm not against it I just can't see how it can work. The Lampard "goal" for example, play continued the ball was live.

[pa___ul3]

I can't see how anyone can say it'll cause problems, it hasn't slowed down the play in rugby. Either wait until it's out of play to contest it or blow up and give a goal kick if it's not a goal and it has been contested, probably easiest the former. They're going to be very rare so I think the chances of a dubious goal having to go to be checked and then the defending team going up the other end of the pitch to score without play stopping between will be hugely unlikely! And even if it happens, it shouldn't be given as you can pull play back for fouls anyway.

[Kayless]

Hang on so we have a "lampard" type moment and we are going to wait for play to stop naturally before reviewing it are we? Paul rare though it may be, sooner or later it will happen. So what if they go up the other end and get a penalty. Play has stopped so we can review the potential goal, it is a goal! hooray, no penalty, oh and the keeper took out the last man to give the pen so he can't be carded either. Sorry mate completely unworkable.

[Kayless]

The Video ref in Rugby and any sport that uses it, is only used when a decision is needed one way or the other and play has stopped, the sport itself must lend itself to "after the event" review. It could not work any other way.

There are uses in Football but only when the ball is dead, eg it would have been very useful in the "hand of God" game in 1986.

[pa___ul3]

why is it unworkable!? If the play's gone on after it should have been stopped then you take it back to the original stoppage, you don't give the penalty because that incident should not have happened. The defending team, that went on to earn a penalty, should not have been allowed that advantage, it's like if someone scores and they're offside, the ref allows play to go on but after consultation with the linesman it's ruled out. It's happened plenty of times.

[mungbeanz]

Or you have a goal line that lights up red and a klazon/fireworks that go off if the ball crosses the line. That way there will be no need to pull back play. It will have stopped teh moment the ball crossed the line.

[ichkeria]

At all costs they mustn't do what has happened in tennis (although it works ok in tennis) i.e. bring in "appeals" where a team can retrospectively stop the game and appeal a controversial decision.
If the "goalline technology" meets the requirements of FIFA - very sensible ones - as laid down in the attached link, then it should work without too many problems. But while FIFA have been criticised for acting too slowly - and they probably have - it would also be a mistake to rush into knee-jerk, ill-thought reactions that might ruin the character of the game, warts and all

[mungbeanz]

you'd have to put a chip in the ball, but i'm sure the boffs at FIFA HQ could sort that out.

[Kayless]

I agree paul but can you imagine what would happen when it happens for real, they'll all be crying their little eyes out especially if it's a 2 goal swing.

[Kayless]

They don't stop the game in tennis, it's already stopped.

If you could get a reliable system to detect when the ball is in the goal and as you say, fire off some sort of indicator then that would be great. I doubt that technology exists. I can just imagine the players setting it off. It would need to be 100% reliable.

[Kayless]

The game has much more urgent/severe problems they need to address first.

[SeaJayPea]

Did you see this in that piece, talking about the International Football Association Board - the law-making body for world football?

"IFAB is composed of the the FA, Irish FA, Welsh FA and Scottish FA - who all receive one vote.

Fifa, who act on behalf of the rest of the world, have four votes."

Sort of explains Scotland and Wales' beef about the Olympics a bit more than I realised before.

I like the idea from thise two Bolton supporters of cameras in the posts. If it works, they say that the info will get to the ref within one second. I can't see that any authority will be able to refuse the technology. Who'd be a PL referee these days?

[Kayless]

who/what will judge if the ball is over the line within 1 second?