Study on needless slaughter

[smilingcrow]

I was just wondering while walking around the supermarket that a lot of the meats must go out of date and be unsold and thrown away. Bearing this in mind has there been a study done on how many lives of animals have been wasted because of the meat going unsold. It's actually a little disturbing for me to think really.

[smilingcrow]

The human race can live without meat. We choose not to. And we also choose to forget that for each mouth full of pleasure is another's loss. I agree we are made to eat meat but it's going too far. I visited the Philippines last year and saw cock fighting. I was shocked to hear a meat eater say it was cruel. Do you think it's cruel compared to the meat we grow and eat?

[Zacs-Master]

Tired old veggie rhetoric. You don't eat meat. I do and always will. End of.

[DaisyNonna]

fellatio?

[Zacs-Master]

Oh go on then.

[woofgang]

Are you vegan? If you eat fish milk butter cheese or eggs, you are also contributing to an industry that you disapprove of, also if you wear leather. Your cosmetics may have been tested on animals, also your household products, certainly your medications.

[smilingcrow]

Like I said I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to make a statement I was only trying to establish a simple fact. Thanks for the replays though and zac I hope I'm not as predictable as you say :)

[seadogg]

I doubt the majority of people give it a second thought and who are we to say whether they are right or wrong. As a thinking person the best you can do is make decisions for yourself sc. What is a fact is that eating meat may not be the most economic way of using land resources and as the earth's human load increases it may be necessary to ration meat by price, in fact this is already happening.

[Anngel123]

Welcome indeed. But FYI animals are bred, not bread (unless you count the coating on a chicken nugget or a burger bun)

[wildwood]

smilingcrow, you need not worry about causing a stir, it is almost an occasional requirement on answerbank, I think.
The point some were trying to make is that if we didn't eat meat then the animals bred specially for consumption wouldn't be around (alive). The amount of animals bred for meat is aimed at the consumption demand. The slaughtering is done mostly humane and quickly, unlike the way many animals die when killed by predators in the wild - some are literally eaten alive.

Eating meat is no different to eating vegies, they are both living organisms before harvested. Just how you define the border between acceptable and unacceptable food is up to each person's personal choice.
I would not think of eating a dog or a cat, but in some cultures it is perfectly acceptable and those (at least dogs) are bred especially for the meat.

[RATTER15]

I am a dedicated meat eater, I would have no problem killing the animal for food, ive hunted my food for many years.

[paddywak]

I'm afraid I can't agree sc, I just cant see the human race becoming vegan, I just don't think it's natural, as for having to kill the meat I eat myself untill I had a stroke I would go shooting at least twice a week and the freezer was always full of what ever meat was in season. As meat being wasted as several posters have already said it doesn't happen that much most meats are "Hung" for several weeks before it is considered ready for eating and if it's not sold it just gets put back in the freezer or moved down the line to the next product be it burgers or pet food

[starone]

If I was starving I would kill the nearest cat. There is no doubt in my mind that circumstances alter the way you feel. During the last world war Japanese prisoners of war ate whatever they could find, including rats. My friend hunts rabbits and, during the season, pheasant. I prepare them and quite happily eat them. I occasionally get venison, and I eat that too - I do not suffer from the Bambi syndrome, nor do I think of little fluffy bunnies, which in fact are a pest. I do not think there are very many young people who could either shoot or prepare them. Makes you wonder what would happen if there was some sort of catastrophe making these skills necessary. Perhaps they would soon learn or starve.

[FredPuli43]

It's not odd that a meat-eater finds some activities, such as cockfighting cruel. The meat he eats has been humanely killed. A cockfight is a brutal exhibition of causing suffering to the birds, birds fitted with sharp spurs to inflict injury, for sport. That's why it's illegal. Bear-baiting, gin-traps, and fox hunting are illegal on the same principle, that they cause unnecessary suffering to animals. Not perhaps on the same scale as some natural predators might do, but not justified in humans.

[smilingcrow]

fredpauli what about hese scinarioes:

A chicken in UK- hatched and put into a cage you can bearly move around in. Never seas the light of day and stays in the same place laying eggs and eating and sleeping. Then when the time is right taken to a factory and have its head ripped off by a machine and the rest we know.

A cock fighting chicken- Born out side and raised up in nature eating the best food and mating with other chickens. Treated like a king of all other chickens. Then has a 2 fight to stay alive- but has a chance of living. Death is usually quick in cock fights and if they chickens are mamed then they have there heads chopped off promptly.

[daffy654]

Why do vegetarians always drag out the same tired old arguments against meat eating? Our poultry and meat farmers have rules and regulations to follow on the treatment of their animals. There are probably a few left who farm their chickens in the way you state but it is easy to buy a free range chicken nowadays, and battery farming is now illegal in the UK so anyone still farming in this manner is breaking the law.

http://www.independen...t-europe-6281802.html

[woofgang]

smiling crow, if you are going to carry on the debate, can you answer please if you are vegan? see my previous post.

[mdenning]

I totally agree with you - I tried to become a vegetarian once but didn't succeed - wish I could though as I hate the thought of animals being slaughtered for me to eat.

[wildwood]

smilingcrow. //A cock fighting chicken- Born out side and raised up in nature eating the best food and mating with other chickens. Treated like a king of all other chickens. Then has a 2 fight to stay alive- but has a chance of living. Death is usually quick in cock fights and if they chickens are mamed then they have there heads chopped off promptly.//

Sorry, but you have been misinformed about the raising and caring of fighting cocks.

[RATTER15]

smilingcrow, you are really deluded if you believe that!!