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thanks guys. Cath, i don't really see a mobile phone as getting into debt - i need it to be on contract as it works out cheaper monthly than pay as you go does for me, and i need to have a phone at all times. I can see why you thought that, but i'm not one of those people that has to get the latest gadget and gets in debt for the privilege or anything. Like i say, all bar one credit card have now been paid off in full and cut up and thrown out - don't worry, i won't be going down that road again.....