Has The Welfare System Created A Monster 2?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304037/Mick-Philpott-benefits-culture-George-Osborne-attacked-Labour-saying-UK-needs-debate-welfare.html

Earlier in the week I posted a thread "Has The Welfare System Created A Monster"?

This was based on a Daily Mail report, and yesterday George Osborne made similar comments and was slated by labour for doing so, was this fair?

George Osborne was not in anyway taking the opportunity of using this tragic case to get over a political point, neither were the Daily Mail or myself.

Mick Phillpott was a 'infamous celebrity' way before he resorted to murdering his children, due mostly to the generous state handouts he enjoyed, and are not most responsible for the celebrity status that he so lavishly enjoyed?

This was encouraged by the media especially television, with the Jeremy Kyle Show, Breakfast TV, and that Ann Widdecombe documentary, some members of the public seemed to get some sort of disturbing enjoyment out of watching these shows, as do some who 'rubber neck' accidents.

Why is this with some people?

[emmie]

i read the mail, and in part actually agree with georgy porgy, however some of these cuts are not going to save money on the welfare bill, they will however dump some people on their backsides, those who may not be able to get back up again. Changes to the welfare state are long overdue, if you are in it, involved it in any way, must know how complex it is. Myriad types of benefits, and i think the answer is simplicity, which from what i read they are trying to do, but perhaps it could have been phased in.
As to a straw poll of the DM, well i sometime read the paper, but it doesn't mean i agree with what they say, it means usually i have wasted my 60p

[mikey4444]

Of course the Welfare State has got out of control but its got nothing whatsoever to do with an evil person like Philpott.

Its symbolic of the Tories getting increasingly scared of the outcome of the election in 2015 that they feel the need to make such daft comments. As Labour gets more ahead in the Polls and the BNP-lite that is UKIP creeps up on them with relentless power, we can expect more of the same.

[anneasquith]

george osborne using the death of 6 children to score political points . shameful.

[mikey4444]

EM...if you realise that the DM is a waste of money, why do you buy it ? If it was a waste of money the last time, its going to be the same the next time isn't it ?

Its not going to change you know...the DM used to support Hitler and Mosely in the 1930's. Now I know that is a long time ago but leopards seldom change their spots in any significant manner.

[emmie]

Mikey, it's my money, and if i choose to waste it that's my business, i don't always read the paper, because i get bogged down with other things, and try the c/w, that takes some time. Have a look at the actual facts of their support please, it's patent nonsense to suggest that they would now, leopards and all that...

[emmie]

Rothermere and the Mail were also editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article entitled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" in January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine". This support ended after violence at a BUF rally in Kensington Olympia later that year.

[mikey4444]

OOOOOOOOOOH temper temper !

[mikey4444]

Osbourne isn't very nice but not even I would call him a monster !

[emmie]

who said he was.

[yerbamate]

YES