Where Are They All Going To Live When They Arrive In A Few Days?

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A pregnant Romanian woman said: ‘I have read on this website I can get £190 a week from the British government from the 25th week of pregnancy.
Just need somebody to help me with the forms!

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[New Judge]

I think we can leave aside the issue of genuine sickness, Emmie. There are people who genuinely cannot work and they deserve all the help they need. We can also leave aside people who find themselves temporarily out of work through no fault of their own and are doing all they can to become employed again. They too deserve help. However, those we cannot leave aside are those who are capable of work and refuse to do so when jobs are available. There are jobs in the UK which require little or no skills. That is undeniable because tens of thousands of migrants arrive here and find unskilled work.

You pose the very question I say is clear cut when you say “why do we need more unskilled workers, if we have enough of our own“ Answer - we don‘t. What we need is to put to work those we already have. “…and why do we have unskilled workers anyway.” - precisely for the reason I said earlier. The vast majority of jobs in the UK require little in the way of skills that cannot be quickly acquired “on the job”

What is clear cut is that there are large numbers of people in the UK with no work who are capable of doing jobs which migrants are prepared to do and which they are not. I don’t blame migrants for taking advantage of these opportunities. I blame successive governments of all colours for allowing such a situation to prevail and simply wring their hands saying “…nothing can be done…we must have these people here…the nation will collapse without them“. Only in the La-La world of the EU would a nation continue to allow people to remain in paid unemployment whilst allowing mass immigration to fill unskilled job vacancies. Outside the EU such an idea would seem preposterous, ludicrous lunacy. Which it is.

[emmie]

and won;t you have the liberal left up in arms for making those same people do work, for tuppence halfpenny an hour.

[emmie]

more British people are in work than ever according to the latest news, so that has to be good eh?

[New Judge]

It would be if:

(a) we no longer had huge numbers of unemployed (i.e. if we had not shipped in huge numbers of foreigners to fill the posts) and

(b) huge numbers of the recently created jobs were not part time

As I said in response to an earlier question, it makes no sense whatsoever to import a migrant to do half a job and leave the taxpayer to pay the other half of the migrant's wages (in the form of working and child tax credits) whilst, of course still paying another person who was already here to sit at home and do nothing. It is utter madness.

[emmie]

how do you know many of the migrants are in taxable jobs, many may be working in the black economy, so won't come under the radar of the tax people. And that those sitting on their derrières may be essentially unemployable, due to their lack of schooling, after all some of our biggest employers bang the drum about how ill educated many of them are, how on earth can that happen.. in a land that gives out education as a right and free. If these long term unemployed are getting on in years now, what jobs will you or others expect them to do, not to mention the outcry that happens when you hear a student who goes to the papers and says he is being paid nothing for work placement.. wasn't one stacking shelves in a pound shop,
i don't have the answer but i don't think it's ever as simple as many seem to think.

[New Judge]

No it's certainly not simple, emmie. But the government's job is to tackle difficult tasks.

It's certainly true that State education in the UK leaves a lot to be desired and leaves a lot of people poorly educated. But whose fault is that? The taxpayer shells out huge sums to educate people and they come out the other end either with twenty five A-Levels or they cannot read or write. This has not just happened over the past few months. But leaving that aside, how much education is needed to pick vegetables, serve hamburgers or clean hotel rooms?

Tackling this problem is not easy but I see no signs of any attempts to tackle it by this or any other government of recent years. Their answer is to ship more people in. It's about as sensible as encouraging cats to breed because many kittens finish up in a sack at the bottom of the canal.