A 'racist' Gesture, Anti-Semitic Committed By A Muslim Footballer Can This Be True?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530442/Footballer-Nicholas-Anelka-fire-making-French-anti-Semitic-gesture-scoring-goal.html

[anotheoldgit]

It's not the Jews it is the Israeli Government???????????

Yet it is funny how the British are regularly criticised for their Empire and Slavery, and Christians for certain things even up to the present day, wasn't this also down to the governments of the time, and not the British people or the Christians per-se?

[Gromit]

AOG.

A Nazi Salute is a Nazi Salute.

This gesture isn't a Nazi Salute.

I doubt you saw any Germans doing it when you were fighting in World War II.

[emmie]

the term used was a variation on a Nazi salute, most people on here i would assume would recognise the real thing.

[LazyGun]

The Nazi salute is instantly recognisable, burned into the collective consciousness of pretty much everyone from pretty much every generation. It is a symbolic shorthand for what the Nazi regime stands for.

This "Quenelle" on the other hand? First I have heard of it. The only ones claiming it is "sweeping europe" are those anxious to discredit the comedian as an anti-semite. The inventor of the gesture, the comedian himself, terms it an anti-establishment gesture, so who are we to argue?

As to whether he is anti-semitic or just anti-israel, it is difficult to say, although he has come out with some pretty inflammatory and also fairly repugnant comments about things like the holocaust etc. Not someone I would want to socialise with, I don't think. But none of us right now have any clue as to Anelkas motivation in using the gesture beyond what he says - that is was a gesture of solidarity to a friend. That does not automatically mean that he supports all the views of said friend, in my opinion.

If he had performed a nazi salute - ban him for a long time, with a big fine, no question - but this? Far too speculative at the moment...

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, I'm willing to be proven wrong but do you not think that if Anotheoldgit fought during WWII he'd have mentioned it long before now?

[Gromit]

THECORBYLOON

// Anotheoldgit 09:48 Mon 11th Nov 2013
I wonder if our Gromit did actually fight the Nazis? 

No I doubt if he actually lived through those times. well I did. //

[Gromit]

Chewn

Not sure the Sky Reporter is unbiased on this matter.

Tim Marshall is a columnist for "The Jewish Chronicle".

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, he may have been a wee one when the war began, I know he was in the RAF in the late fifties but that does not mean he actually fought in the war.

[Dodger666]

If the gesture made by Nicolas Anelka is deemed to be offensive & racist why does the BBC, and no doubt the other channels too, keep screening it?

Is it only offensive & racist to football fans?