General Election Voting Intention

[AB Editor]

 

This poll is closed.

Who will you be voting for in the next general election?

• Conservatives - 40 votes
• 32%
• Labour - 32 votes
• 25%
• UKIP - 30 votes
• 24%
• I will not vote - 7 votes
• 6%
• Liberal Democrats - 5 votes
• 4%
• Green - 5 votes
• 4%
• SNP - 4 votes
• 3%
• BNP - 1 vote
• 1%
• Monster Raving Loony Party / Bus-Pass Elvis Party / Fancy Dress Party / Other "Joke" Party - 1 vote
• 1%
• I will spoil my ballot - 1 vote
• 1%
• Alliance (NI) - 1 vote
• 1%
• Independent - 0 vote
• 0%
• Plaid Cymru - 0 vote
• 0%
• SDLP (NI) - 0 vote
• 0%
• OUP (NI) - 0 vote
• 0%
• TUV (NI) - 0 vote
• 0%
• DUP (NI) - 0 vote
• 0%
• Sinn Fein (NI) - 0 vote
• 0%

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[BlueToffee]

Sorry mikey, will have to try harder next time, writing fifty lines forthwith!

[naomi24]

Mikey, Don’t be so damned rude. You’ve said quite clearly that you agree with BlueToffee who has nothing negative at all to say about immigration. However, it now transpires that you don’t agree with him because you have concerns about uncontrolled immigration which he doesn’t appear to share. If the wrong impression has been gained here, don’t blame me – just think about what you're saying before you start crowing in future.

[mikey4444]

Blue toffee has said nothing that doesn't appear to be true, and that is why I agree with him, so please untwist your smalls naomi !

[naomi24]

Mikey, my smalls are not twisted - and if BlueToffee hasn't said anything that doesn't appear to be true, why the concern from the main political parties - and you - about uncontrolled immigration, which is the question I asked in the first place?

[Kromovaracun]

"Statistics can be massaged to produce any result you want them to produce "

This is true for bad statistics - and tends to be the rallying cry for people who wish to ignore research. Like any piece of information, statistics that come from good research aren't terribly massageable - or not if the person talking about them has actually bothered to read about them.

[emmie]

so how does that work with any statistics, after all there is a suggestion that the police massage statistics on crime, so if they do it how can any be trusted to be correct, true

[Kromovaracun]

Well, it's probably more Jim's ballpark than mine, but if someone has published the methods they used to get their figures, then you read it and figure it out. If they haven't, or they are subsequently revealed to have been dishonest about their method, you should probably be suspicious.

The point I'm making here is that the "you can massage statistics" argument is often used to ignore any figures whatsoever regardless of where they come from or how they are obtained, when all it should really do is encourage caution.

[emmie]

i don't trust statistics at all, a poll of 2,000 people say they like dark chocolate, ok fine, however what about the rest of the population, they might like white chocolate or none at all, taking small amounts of data and spreading it across the country as a whole seems flawed in the extreme.

[naomi24]

Krom, //...tends to be the rallying cry for people who wish to ignore research.//

That smacks of the tedious ‘racism, xenophobia’ retort we hear whenever anyone has the gall to criticise immigration. Let’s look at what BlueToffee has actually said:

No.1 – probably true, although without the enormous numbers of immigrants coming into this country would the NHS, which in 2012 spent £23 million on translating documents and providing interpreters alone, struggle quite as much?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16905491

No 2.- I can’t see the relevance of that statistic.

No.3 – That fails to address the financial impact upon services such as health care, housing, education, etc. Additionally, I doubt very much that all of that, together with the benefits that people are automatically entitled to claim such as family tax credits, child benefit, etc., have been included - and if they haven’t then these statistics give a false impression.

No 4 – More than they gained in what? See No. 3.

No 5 – What are these studies, what did they account for, who conducted them – and just how accurate are they?

Easy to make claims – but the fact remains that if immigration wasn’t presenting a problem the major political parties wouldn’t be voicing concerns – and they wouldn’t be running scared of Ukip.

You talk about encouraging caution - and that’s exactly what I’m doing.

[tamborine]

127 votes only. Is that the total aber members :(

[tonyav]

The other ab members could be ' Don't Knows', tambo !.