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will be making a statement re the resignation of mrs butler-sloss at 3pm approx.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Ah yes DTC...Lord Denning ! Wasn't he the one that said :::
In 1980, during an appeal by the Birmingham Six (who were later acquitted) Lord Denning judged that the men should be stopped from challenging legal decisions. He listed several reasons for not allowing their appeal:
Just consider the course of events if their action were to proceed to trial ... If the six men failed it would mean that much time and money and worry would have been expended by many people to no good purpose. If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous. ... That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, "It cannot be right that these actions should go any further
In other words...don't let them appeal because they might win !
He was protecting the Establishment in his own little way DTC !
In 1980, during an appeal by the Birmingham Six (who were later acquitted) Lord Denning judged that the men should be stopped from challenging legal decisions. He listed several reasons for not allowing their appeal:
Just consider the course of events if their action were to proceed to trial ... If the six men failed it would mean that much time and money and worry would have been expended by many people to no good purpose. If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous. ... That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, "It cannot be right that these actions should go any further
In other words...don't let them appeal because they might win !
He was protecting the Establishment in his own little way DTC !
Lord Denning has been dead for over fifteen years.
Yes Mikey Ld Denning had a bit of a blind spot over that one
as did a lot of the establishment
Did not Margt Thatcher write on one file - do we really have to go thro this again ( that might have been Hillsborough)
and Ld Denning again - 'ah yes but have they proved their innocence ?'
This prompted a flood of appeals because a successful appeal has a much lower hurdle and thus he might have been WRONG in some of the appeals
and Ld Lane LCJ - if they let them out, then I go-
so they let them out and he didnt go !
You know ; I just dont think she was as good as she said she was....
Yes Mikey Ld Denning had a bit of a blind spot over that one
as did a lot of the establishment
Did not Margt Thatcher write on one file - do we really have to go thro this again ( that might have been Hillsborough)
and Ld Denning again - 'ah yes but have they proved their innocence ?'
This prompted a flood of appeals because a successful appeal has a much lower hurdle and thus he might have been WRONG in some of the appeals
and Ld Lane LCJ - if they let them out, then I go-
so they let them out and he didnt go !
You know ; I just dont think she was as good as she said she was....
I think that in the case of Denning, he just went on for too long. He should have retired long before he went gahgah. Here is another Denning quote which is sheer wickedness ::
"In the summer of 1990 he agreed to a taped interview with A.N. Wilson, to be published in The Spectator. They discussed the Guildford Four; Denning remarked that if the Guildford Four had been hanged "They'd probably have hanged the right men. Just not proved against them, that's all".[94] His remarks were controversial and came at a time when the issue of miscarriage of justice was a sensitive topic.[95] He had expressed a similar controversial opinion regarding the Birmingham Six in 1988, saying: "Hanging ought to be retained for murder most foul. We shouldn't have all these campaigns to get the Birmingham Six released if they'd been hanged. They'd have been forgotten, and the whole community would be satisfied... It is better that some innocent men remain in jail than that the integrity of the English judicial system be impugned.
So hang people that you can't prove are guilty and stop the Police from being exposed as liars...what a wonderful epitaph to be remembered for.
"In the summer of 1990 he agreed to a taped interview with A.N. Wilson, to be published in The Spectator. They discussed the Guildford Four; Denning remarked that if the Guildford Four had been hanged "They'd probably have hanged the right men. Just not proved against them, that's all".[94] His remarks were controversial and came at a time when the issue of miscarriage of justice was a sensitive topic.[95] He had expressed a similar controversial opinion regarding the Birmingham Six in 1988, saying: "Hanging ought to be retained for murder most foul. We shouldn't have all these campaigns to get the Birmingham Six released if they'd been hanged. They'd have been forgotten, and the whole community would be satisfied... It is better that some innocent men remain in jail than that the integrity of the English judicial system be impugned.
So hang people that you can't prove are guilty and stop the Police from being exposed as liars...what a wonderful epitaph to be remembered for.
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I regret Ld Denning was echoing a standard and common judicial view on capital punishment Ld Kilmuir ( Sir David Maxwell Fyffw ) - basically there was no appeal after you'd hanged them, and that was why he opposed abolition....
There are still people around who think our judges are the best possible ( well the judges certainly think that of themselves) whereas I tend to the Oh God view
I regret Ld Denning was echoing a standard and common judicial view on capital punishment Ld Kilmuir ( Sir David Maxwell Fyffw ) - basically there was no appeal after you'd hanged them, and that was why he opposed abolition....
There are still people around who think our judges are the best possible ( well the judges certainly think that of themselves) whereas I tend to the Oh God view