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Here's Irony Labour Moaning About The Crisis Facing Our Schools.

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anotheoldgit | 08:29 Mon 18th Aug 2014 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727465/Primary-classes-70-Labour-reveals-crisis-schools-caused-immigration-policy.html

/// The British population has risen by five million over the past 12 years, growing faster than anywhere else in Europe. ///

/// In mid-2013, there were 400,600 more residents than a year earlier, equivalent to a city the size of Bristol. Immigration was directly responsible for 46 per cent of that rise. ///

/// Migrants also play a major role in the current baby boom, with one in four infants now born to a mother who was born abroad. The National Audit Office has warned that 240,000 extra primary places will be needed by next
month. ///

The solution, get our borders back, and don't vote Labour.

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I keep on saying, in response to many topics posted here on AB, that there are simply too many people in the UK and the population growth cannot be sustained if we expect infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. to cope.

Yes it's quite true that a lot of that growth is unquestionably down to excessive immigration and Labour has a lot to answer for in that respect. But no party (main or otherwise) has any policies which are aimed at discouraging population growth and until this issue is addressed these problems will increase.
Here are the opening words from an article in The Telegraph - of all places! – about six months ago:
“Official statistics showed net immigration to the UK was 212,000 in the year to September, up 58,000. That’s a long, long way from the “tens of thousands” promised in the Conservative Party manifesto in 2010.”

Things haven’t got any better since. In fact, the whole article is worth reading in order to grasp the shambles that is Conservative 'policy' - for want of a better word - on immigration. The solution, don't vote Tory.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jameskirkup/100261613/david-cameron-is-miles-away-from-delivering-on-his-immigration-promise-will-he-repeat-it-at-the-election/
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"The solution, get our borders back, and don't vote Labour."

Surely that last line should be:

"The solution, get our borders back, and don't vote Labour or Conservative or a Conservative/LibDem Coalition"

Based on the figures supplied by Quizmonster?
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sp1814

You missed three out sp, UKIP, or Conservative/UKIP coalition or Labour/LibDem coalition?
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Quizmonster

At least the Conservatives, have promised a referendum on Europe, and if that gets an 'OUT' vote, then the UK will have control back of it's borders once more.
Of course the "net" migration figures are disingenuous - unless, that is, you are happy to see the UK's population swapped by losing predominantly high skilled or high value people and replacing them with predominantly low skilled or low value people. (I know there are exceptions to these generalisations, but that's the main thrust of "net" immigration).

However, that's by the way. In 2013 450,000 non-British people arrived to settle in the UK. Of these 201,000 came from other EU countries. Neither Mr Cameron nor indeed anybody else has any control whatsoever over this 45% of new arrivals. So sp is quite correct. Since none of the main parties (including the Conservatives) or combinations thereof has any real intention of steering the UK out of the EU, nor any realistic prospect of "renegotiating" the issue of free movement of people, we're stuck with it.

I think their best chance of reducing net immigration is to try and drive as many British people as they can out of the UK. They seem to be making quite a good job of that.
I don't believe I'm reading this.Is sp1814 suggesting I vote UKIP. Wonders never cease to amaze me!!!
No surprise at all to anyone who is not a right-on lentil crunching liberal.

Open border policies do not work. It's not just the people it is the infrastructure needed to support the people. Prisons, schools, hospitals Police stations, fire stations, houses, the list is endless, cannot be just magicked up. They all take years to build up.

But the right-on brigade just cannot see this. They are the loud mouthed minority but this is who Governments, of all persuasions, listen to not the majority or are labelled racists and whatever else comes to mind to shut them up.
But labelling as lentil-crunching liberals is permitted of course
It's a shame because I quite like lentils. I may seriously have to reconsider my diet if I am to be labelled a "right-on liberal". Ye Gods !!!! :-)
I sympathise with you NJ. I'm sure Ghengis Khan enjoyed the odd Tarka Dahl as I do.
"Lentil-crunching liberals", again, eh? I suggested in another recent thread, YMB, that you desperately needed to update - or at least vary - your repertoire. Bring back the hand-wringing, yurt-dwelling yoghurt-knitters for a bit of variety at least, for Pete's sake!
seems Tory attempts to congtrol immigration have just cost us another £224 million

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28840966

Oh dear, how careless.
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jno

/// seems Tory attempts to congtrol immigration have just cost us another £224 million ///

No just another madcap Labour idea that was all part of the mess inherited by the Tories.

/// The e-borders programme launched by Labour ministers in 2003 was a £1bn attempt to reform border controls. In 2007 Raytheon won a nine-year contract for the programme. ///
the idea was Labour's, and might or might not have been working (Raytheon blamed the Border Agency). However, the Tories chose to terminate it unlawfully and that's what we are all paying the price for.

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