Risky !

[tonyav]

Looks like Dave is going to be using the 'Risky' ploy.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/david-cameron-plans-eu-campaign-focusing-on-risky-impact-of-uk-exit/ar-AAcaLfm

[whiskeryron]

Maybe it is risky to leave the EU & I'm quite happy to stay in provided it is on the original terms that we are part of a common market with our own government who we elected to power to make decisions for the people of the UK.

[tonyav]

I don't think that is going to happen though, ron.

[mikey4444]

I feel a little sorry for dave here.

He was bumped into having a referendum, by the prospect of UKIP snapping at his heels. Of course, this in the end, turned out to be no threat at all. In fact, at the Election, the Tories won back back one of the two seats that they lost to UKIP the previous year, so no great harm done after all.

But he now faces a much worse prospect...his own Tory militant tendency. They put paid to a previous Tory PM, who left Downing Street with a whole back-load of knives sticking out of him, and they could do for dave as well, unless he is very careful.

None of the main political Parties want out of Europe, and he most certainly doesn't himself. So he is hedging his bets as much as possible, and who can blame him. He only has 3-4 years left at Number Ten and he wants to decide himself when he leaves, not be pushed by the swivel-eyed loons, and the bar-stewards.

[tonyav]

mikey, do you not think that Dave ( Tories ) won the GE partly because of the promise of an in / out referendum.

[Khandro]

I don't think there is anything risky about leaving, there will be advantages and disadvantages, the disadvantages will be dealt with by the pragmatic British and resolved by new initiatives - quite exiting really!

[mikey4444]

Tony...I think that it played a small part in the Tories victory, but not a huge one. In my own constituency of Gower, it was the surge in support for UKIP that effectively lost Labour the seat to the Tories, for the first time since 1906.

In 2010, UKIP Polled 652. But in May, UKIP Polled 4,773, thus letting the Tories in with the smallest of majorities...just 27. So its clear why the Tories won, and it had nothing to do with a Referendum.

I am sure that there were other similar cases across the country.

I am off for my Sunday afternoon siesta now !

[bazwillrun]

exactly Khandro...
I'll say it a milliion times if I have to, but we dont need them..we were fine before and will get by without them...theres bound to be some short term problems but we will get round them just like every and any others past or present..we didnt become Great Britian for nothing !

The main thing is we stop the loss and ultimate destruction of this country as a soveriegn self governing nation, we stay in we will become no more than an outlying province, with resources flowing one way...out towards brussels.

The eussr is just another political attempt at empire building...look at the history of all other empires !...

This is no more than invasion by stealth....

[jourdain2]

We managed before, no problem. I don't see why we could not negotiate a common market - which is what it was all supposed to be about in the first place - and also be enabled to open our market to wherever else in the world would buy from us. They still want to buy our goods and vice versa.
(Prevented from extending markets at the moment by EU rules.)

But it is far, far more and far deeper than that. The younger ones are dangerously sheep-like and dependent (judging by one of my daughters - there will be arguments!). Some fire needs injecting (No I'm not being Gung-Ho!, just time for a sensible assessment of our position in the world.)

[jourdain2]

Lots of cars and Rolls-Royce aero-engines to start with, Bouncer. Nissan, Rover, Jaguar all made in England. Plenty of other cutting-edge technological developments. Dyson is very much in favour of leaving the EU. Our financial services are also in demand. :)

[sandyRoe]

Did Dyson move production to the Far East?

[jomifl]

/quite exiting really! / ...very drole

[jourdain2]

Yes, Dyson did move some manufacturing to the far East, but has invested hugely in R & D in the UK at Malmesbury and has said that he would move production back to the UK if not handicapped by EU rules.

UK also manufactures wings for airbus etc.. I'm no expert, this is just bits gleaned, but adding a lot of little bits together I have no doubts that we would be OK if freed-up. Most of my family is in business and they would dearly love to be free of the regimentation. (I'm the odd-one out, having been a teacher!)

[bazwillrun]

"Our financial services are also in demand."

that is an understatement....to get control of them and the whole financial sector is one of the jewels in the crown for the eussr