Is This Being Racist?

[anotheoldgit]

Oh dear, I was trawling through the Guardian's web-site looking for the story regarding that Mentally ill Black lad who was given such a harsh sentence for merely shop lifting, when I came across this gem.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/29/finding-comfort-in-black-community

[sp1814]

whiskeryron

You think I've called you a liar, but you're wrong.

I'm saying that what you have written is untrue.

There's a difference.

If I asked, "How many number ones did the Beatles have in the UK singles chart" and you replied, "16"...I could say, "That's simply not true" right?

Wouldn't be calling you a liar...just stating that the 'fact' that you have presented is not true.

It is simply not true that "everybody goes immediately to where their own kind are based" - it's just not factually correct.

If it were true then every single Brit emigrating to Spain would live in exactly the same place. Every single Nigerian emigrating to Portugal would live in the same town as every other Nigerian.

It is statistically untrue.

It's true to say that many people emigrating are drawn by location of family and/or work, but beyond that to say that they all migrate to the same place is not proven.

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

"Until such times as they don't demand special treatment, and until such times as they accept that they belong to this country and not one which is thousands of miles away and which they have most likely never visited"

And by the same token exactly how long do we have to wait until certain people accept that the descendants of immigrants are actually British and drop the 'dog born in a stable' metaphor we so often hear dragged out?

And by 'special treatment' are you talking about the 'E' word again?

[sp1814]

TWR

I think you may have missed the point I was asking:

How many generations do we have to "put up with it, or feck off?"

I'm talking about second and third generation Brits.

[ummmm]

AOG....I was brought up in a pub....far from a sheltered upbringing!!

[TWR]

SP I understand where your going, all that I am saying, this is the UK, abide by OUR RULE, meaning, you can not stand on Street corners mouthing off hatred about the country that has kept you & your tribe as in the case on the HOOK, Do not commit F.M. Do not try and change our schooling / this is the UK, what I said, if you don't like it F.O. It's simple.

[EcclesCake]

TWR, your tolerance is what I most admire in you......that and your understanding of the question and society.

[sp1814]

TWR

But the question that I'm asking is whether descendants of immigrants should have less say than say, people who can trace their families back many generations.

That's the nub of the question.

I understand why you refer to recent immigrants, but surely if someone was born here, raised here, schooled here, works here and pays tax and national insurance here, he or she has exactly the same rights as anyone else?

[Mamyalynne]

I have reported Eccles for making me spit my cauli out.