Possibly A Reason Why I Am An Above Average Reader?

[inksplotter]

I had a book about reading phoenetically at home-the Easy Reader series. Was anyone else helped by these?

[Mamyalynne]

To answer the main point , the phonetic way of teaching suits some children but not all.

Glad you felt it helped you inksplotter - it is much harder as an adult to compare your reading level to anyone else's though.

The bloke down the Pub could be a top scholar, how would one know?

[inksplotter]

Surely you can't say I'm showing off unless you can prove I'm lying? Saying I'm below average may be described as hubris-another bad character trait. Anyone can say they're average, but you can't learn about people that way.

[boxtops]

That last post doesn't make sense to me, inksplotter.

[Mamyalynne]

I sometimes think it is the way one posts really - your OP sounds a bit boastful and whilst that is your choice, I would have worded it slightly differently.

'I consider myself to be an above average reader (based on the people I know) - I wonder if this is because of the Early Reader Series which were Phonetic based?'

[Mamyalynne]

Just to add my experiences, I could read fluently when I started School, as could both of my Daughters (though their teachers told me I should have left it to them).

I have 4 Grandchildren the two eldest boys (10 years) are years ahead in their reading ability, Granddaughter (7) finds it somewhat a frustrating task and as a perfectionist she won't persevere without some cajoling.

The youngest is 3, so a little early to fully judge, but he loves books.

[royfromaus]

Just like this chap http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI5NlgxNjAw/z/tnwAAOxyVLNSoir4/$_57.JPG
I consider myself a top Scholar.

[Mamyalynne]

I am not a fan of Phonetics either.

[DrFilth]

> inksplotter
"Someone who does have not trouble reading"-someone who reads more than the bloke in the pub, for instance. <

the people who i use to know who read lots of books i met in pubs, one worked in car parks and would read while waiting for cars to vacate their allotted spaces

after working over 20 years doing over 12 hour shifts i think you get the picture regarding how many books he read

to suggest people who visit pubs do not read as well as you shows your ignorance

[paddywak]

Over the years I've spent a lot of time in pubs,I've also spent a lot of time reading everything from pulp fiction to the classics.I consider myself to be well read but I don't normally go round bragging about it.

[Peter Pedant]

Inksplotter, yes the average guy down the pub has a reading age of less than 16. Most read less than one book a year. The av household has less than five books.
and so you may well with very little effort be above average.

I think the usual suspects are being unusually p+ssy quite honestly

to answer your q., the phonetic reader I think was the Pitman Initial Teaching Alphabet. They used 42 letters.

and.....

it was abandoned because it was shown it DIDNT lead to better reading scores in the average class.

basically you had to start over at the age of 7 with the standard alphabet and some made it and some didnt....and over all - there wasnt a rise in standards. Lasted less than 10 y.

of the fifty or so answers, I would have thought one would address the issues raised. ho hum....

[Peter Pedant]

I have re-read the answers on this thread, and what a load of w+nk quite honestly. Yes I am aware that Dickens ( my fave actually ) never used language like that.

[sherrardk]

I don't read anything but don't consider myself stupid (because I am not). Our house is full of books and (with the exception of thing 1 - who can't be bothered) all of the children are good readers.

[Peter Pedant]

This thread is about whether easy-readers led to superior reading levels, and not about whether anyone has children and grandchildren who know which way to hold a book - isnt it ?

tell me if I am wrong

[DrFilth]

my answer was to this post pp

> Question Author
"Someone who does have not trouble reading"-someone who reads more than the bloke in the pub, for instance.
14:03 Mon 16th Jun 2014 <

do you have a problem with that ?

[sherrardk]

It may have been the original purpose of the thread but it's been all round the houses - if you feel my post is out of order in time way (other than it irritates you), please report me.

[Peter Pedant]

well I agree with inksplotter

when you go into a pub in NH or Droyslden, the locals dont look up from their Dickens novels and say - what ails thee, Friend ?

Cotton Tree ( is it open ? ) is different - one should wear full metal jacket and not worry about cross words.....

Canal st., pubs there arent filled with literary giants - and I know, I've kissed a few frogs if you get my meaning....

[Mamyalynne]

Right Peter, then all the answers to inksplotter's question 'Was anyone else helped by these?' should have been either...

Yes.

or

No.

What a fabulous discussion that would have been.


Starred out expletives do your case no favours rather they display a level of laziness.

[sherrardk]

You can't judge a book by the cover. For example, people make sweeping assumptions about me (you can tell just by looking at them) but how I look/my lifestyle is no indication of either my reading ability or intelligence.