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A Message For The Anti-Vaxxers
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Great comment in the paper today:
I am so sick of these idiots who are jabbed and still do not seem to understand that their precious jab DOES NOT STOP YOU CATCHING OR TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS... in fact they do not seem to even know what their precious jab does but cannot wait to shut down any debate with name calling and threats. They have given up any rights for the sake of a shot that no company will ever be sued for if it damages or kills you. No consequences of any sort. But you expect me to run out and get one JUST BECAUSE YOU DID... no thank you. I still have FREE WILL & FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I respect your choice, now respect mine
I am so sick of these idiots who are jabbed and still do not seem to understand that their precious jab DOES NOT STOP YOU CATCHING OR TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS... in fact they do not seem to even know what their precious jab does but cannot wait to shut down any debate with name calling and threats. They have given up any rights for the sake of a shot that no company will ever be sued for if it damages or kills you. No consequences of any sort. But you expect me to run out and get one JUST BECAUSE YOU DID... no thank you. I still have FREE WILL & FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I respect your choice, now respect mine
MrsCheese
Great comment in the paper today:
I am so sick of these idiots who are jabbed and still do not seem to understand that their precious jab DOES NOT STOP YOU CATCHING OR TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS... in fact they do not seem to even know what their precious jab does but cannot wait to shut down any debate with name calling and threats
But it does vastly increase your chances of survival should you be unfortunate enough to contract it
Feel free to continue on your course of natural selection though
Great comment in the paper today:
I am so sick of these idiots who are jabbed and still do not seem to understand that their precious jab DOES NOT STOP YOU CATCHING OR TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS... in fact they do not seem to even know what their precious jab does but cannot wait to shut down any debate with name calling and threats
But it does vastly increase your chances of survival should you be unfortunate enough to contract it
Feel free to continue on your course of natural selection though
Anyone refusing to be vaccinated poses a risk to the vaccinated population – as well as a much greater risk to themselves and other unvaccinated persons.
An unvaccinated person is roughly 10 times more likely to contract Covid than a vaccinated person of the same age. Once they have the disease they are 6 times (at least) more likely to wind up in hospital and 10 times more likely to need ICU treatment once hospitalised. Therefore ...
1. There is an increased risk of infection to individual vaccinated persons – an unvaccinated person is much more likely to be ill with Covid-19 at some point, and will also be shedding a maximum viral load for much longer whilst in the infectious stage of the illness (recovery times are significantly longer in unvaccinated people).
2. A significant pool of infection continuing in unvaccinated persons provides increased opportunity for more harmful variants to develop.
Thus it is obvious that choosing not to be vaccinated (which is an entirely personal decision which I respect) has implications not just for the individual, but for wider society too.
So - to summarise :
“You have the right to choose not be vaccinated, but society has the right to protect its other members from the consequences of your decision”
An unvaccinated person is roughly 10 times more likely to contract Covid than a vaccinated person of the same age. Once they have the disease they are 6 times (at least) more likely to wind up in hospital and 10 times more likely to need ICU treatment once hospitalised. Therefore ...
1. There is an increased risk of infection to individual vaccinated persons – an unvaccinated person is much more likely to be ill with Covid-19 at some point, and will also be shedding a maximum viral load for much longer whilst in the infectious stage of the illness (recovery times are significantly longer in unvaccinated people).
2. A significant pool of infection continuing in unvaccinated persons provides increased opportunity for more harmful variants to develop.
Thus it is obvious that choosing not to be vaccinated (which is an entirely personal decision which I respect) has implications not just for the individual, but for wider society too.
So - to summarise :
“You have the right to choose not be vaccinated, but society has the right to protect its other members from the consequences of your decision”
Yes - Barsel - they can :
"Because it’s possible to get reinfected and COVID-19 can cause severe medical complications, the CDC recommends that people who have already had COVID-19 get a COVID-19 vaccine.
In addition, COVID-19 vaccination might offer better protection than getting sick with COVID-19. A recent study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than twice as likely as fully vaccinated people to get reinfected with COVID-19.
Recent research also suggests that people who got COVID-19 in 2020 and then received mRNA vaccines produce very high levels of antibodies that are likely effective against current and, possibly, future variants. Some scientists call this hybrid immunity. Further research is needed.
If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine."
"Because it’s possible to get reinfected and COVID-19 can cause severe medical complications, the CDC recommends that people who have already had COVID-19 get a COVID-19 vaccine.
In addition, COVID-19 vaccination might offer better protection than getting sick with COVID-19. A recent study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than twice as likely as fully vaccinated people to get reinfected with COVID-19.
Recent research also suggests that people who got COVID-19 in 2020 and then received mRNA vaccines produce very high levels of antibodies that are likely effective against current and, possibly, future variants. Some scientists call this hybrid immunity. Further research is needed.
If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine."
Royfromaus - it's about the likelihood of someone being infected and then the level of their infectious risk to others - both are *much* higher in the unvaccinated. So their personal choice has a significant impact on others - not least in the disproportionate use of scarce NHS resources by the unvaccinated.
I refer you to my (lengthy) post at 19:03.
I refer you to my (lengthy) post at 19:03.
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