More Proof That We're All Migrants Whether We Like It Or Not!

[Mosaic]

There's been lots of debate in 2015 about Europe being swamped by migrants. Evidence is now backing up hypotheses that mass migration has been a regular, formative event.
Coming over here, bringing their farming and their bronze...... Media URL: http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/winter-2015-2016/article/scientists-sequence-first-ancient-irish-human-genomes
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[Mosaic]

Lol!
Cmon Svejk, deal with it.
Nope Naomi, wrong tack to take again. Naughty bad manners.

[Zacs-Master]

Still waiting.....

[Svejk]

I've already dealt with you. lol.

[Svejk]

I've already dealt with you. lol.

[Mosaic]

Not feeling especially dealt with Svejk.....

That all you got?

[Zacs-Master]

Me neither.

[naomi24]

Does anyone know what she's talking about?

[Mosaic]

Now children, play nice.
Address the questions....heed then address answers.....don't make demands for individual research unless you're willing to provide same yourself.

[Ellipsis]

> the points are addressed in your order.

Sorry, I don't see that. The question remains completely unanswered.

> Complex behaviours cannot be resolved with closed answers.

There's nothing complex about my question. The only reason to claim it's complex is so that you can give a lame reason for not answering it.

> Migration has demonstrably contributed to the betterment of host societies.

Even if this were true (and I gave an example of Native Americans which you chose not to respond to), you have failed to show how modern migration is a metaphor for the historic, warring, conquering of the host society that you referred to in the OP.

[viv41]

NO !

[Zacs-Master]

'Address the questions....heed then address answers.....don't make demands for individual research unless you're willing to provide same yourself.'

Erm...why should I provide evidence to back up your claims. They're you're claims. Please provide evidence to back them up or people will start to think that you're making things up,to,suit your own arguments. Bad debating form that Mosaic.

[Mosaic]

Now then ellipsis, I didn't raise now war in my OP. I relayed the evidence that mass migration has been regular and formative

ie it shaped the demographic and introduced technologies

Others, you included, started on about war and migration. I'm sorry you felt I ignored you about the Amerinds, which was not intentional. so if you wanted to list what European invasion 'did' for Amerindians - comes out very negative on the whole. But the invasion worked out really quite well for Europe. Not a popular thought, but undeniable.

[Mosaic]

Have so done Zacs, all the way along, books n websites etc
Not engaging with your demand to undertake your research though.

[Baldric]

///More detail can be had on request, with the greatest of pleasure.///

I don't see how Zacs is being unreasonable by asking you to follow up that statement, unless of course as I suspect you will have difficulty in doing so.

[Zacs-Master]

Me too balders. Mosaic is a-wriggling and a-squirming like a worm on a hook. Happy to provide more facts you said. Do you now admit that this was, in fact, not true?

[Ellipsis]

> Others, you included, started on about war and migration

That's because the two are related - historic migration tended to accompany wars, because the "host societies" were not too accepting.

> so if you wanted to list what European invasion 'did' for Amerindians - comes out very negative on the whole. But the invasion worked out really quite well for Europe. Not a popular thought, but undeniable

Definitely undeniable, but the Europeans were the invaders, not the host society; so this is not a good example of "Migration has demonstrably contributed to the betterment of host societies", but the opposite ...

[Mosaic]

Yes, good point
On the other hand, the Amerinds appear to have enjoyed the guns n booze. And the horses. Which were used to wage war against each other initially. Again, not popular to talk of, but it surely did occur.

[-Talbot-]

Regardless of who said what about war, the answer I am waiting for is one to address this


Mosaic
But vetuste and ellipsis, think now....if the current wave of mass migration includes more people engaging in a different form of warfare.....isn't that technological change?

19:07 Tue 29th Dec 2015




Are the current wave of migrants engaging in a different form of warfare?

[viv41]

As far as I'm concerned Zaks put it rather well at 9:18 yesterday ...

[Mosaic]

Hi Talbot, like wot I said somewhere above, warfare has changed and people among the mass migration of 2015 who wish to wage war will use new technologies.