light bulbs

[fuggy]

having been used to 150w light bulbs, what is the equivalent in brightness with the new enegy saving bulbs?

[alan-r]

believe me there isn't one
i wont use the dim new low energy
new type led are on the horizon which will be much brighter than low energy
i cant find any 150watt at mo but still looking, but have just bought a 200 watt to replace my 150 when it goes
please,no replies about carbon footprint thank you..

[weeal]

Im finding the low energy ones much brighter, just replaced 3 x 40w with 3 x 8w in one fitting and it was like bl00dy blackpool illuminations, need my sunglasses

[mallam]

How extraordinary, weeal. All I ever get from them is dinge. And the claim that they ever remotely approach the advertised equivalent wattages after they have taken an eternity to warm up is utter rot.

Not to mention what we learn about the environmental hazards of their disposal and general lack of ecological credibility. If there is a prospect of LEDs coming in long before these odious 'low energy' impostors have produced even enough dinge to be able however implausibly to claim to have justified the expense and carbon footprint of their manufacture and purchase, it was sheer pseudoenvironmentalist terrorism to make even 100W incandescents unavailable, never mind 150W and 200W.

[weeal]

The ones I used were Tesco 'Greener Living' mini spiral bulbs and the 15w one was too bright for the table lamp in the living room and I took it out again, now left with 2 of these which are too bright, all my ceiling fittings are halogen.
Also, they only have a nano second delay in lighting up.

[mallam]

Ah, I see. They may have that trendy label, but Im afraid they too are pseudoenvironmentalist. Halogen bulbs are indeed very acceptable, precisely because they are not low-energy. They cost more to buy and about the same to run as incandescent.

[weeal]

so youre telling me (in super fancy words) that they are lying? the packaging says eDF energy and says its energy saving? are we all being conned or are you surmising?

anyway, they look good and are damn bright

[mallam]

Yess, they do look good, don't they? Too good to be true, Im afraid.

[weeal]

Well the last lot I had are still working, 7 years on so theyre good for something, I only replaced them cos the wee curly ones look better and put the straight ones back in a drawer for spares, however these ARE brighter and last for yonks so Im not worrying.

[fuggy]

thanks for your opinions and views, i think that is giong to be trial and error.

[mallam]

Yes, weeal. I should have conceded that point. They do last. But you have to get the wattage right for the fitting. We got a three socket ceiling light fitting 11 years ago and one bulb went after about 10. Its replacement conked out PDQ, but we then learnt it was the wrong wattage. And the wattage is not marked on the bulbs themselves!

[mallam]

PS, weeal. By 'super fancy words', I take you to mean 'super-fancy words'. Somehow I don't think you mean the fancy words are super! (What fancy words?)

[weeal]

lol

sooper

[Disco Fever]

In January 2007 the 150 watt lamp, bulb to most people but lamp to us sparky's, was made obsolete and this year the 100 watt was also made obselete to make way for the low energy type to save energy and do the usual stuff to the environment.

If you really need a bright lamp in your light fitting then goto an electrical wholesaler, not B&Q as they don't keep them, to get a colour 840 or 860 which are natural daylight and sky white respectively as these lamps will give out a better light output from the normal colour 827, warm white, that you buy from the local shops....