Hot and cold

[KARL]

It seems washing machines on the market just now are mostly cold water fill only - gives the manufacturer scope to reduce the cost of the machine but it is not what I want. Can someone point me to a make and model (washer only, lowest price first) that is equipped with both hot and cold fill ?

[ChuckFickens]

it also give you the chance to reduce your bills! (well unless you have a really cheap other way of heating your water!)

Cold fill only machines heat the water inside them so only heat excatly the amount of water they need.

Machines with hot fill you are heating the water in the pipes between your hot water tank and the machine before filling, which then cools down in the pipes so needs to be heated again inside the machine and when they a full they also leave hot water in the pipes after filling that will just cool down so it needs to be heated again. Thats a lot of energy basically gfoing to waste.

[heathfield]

Have a read of this Karl.

[sandmaster]

Also - if your domestic hot water is hotter than the programme you have chosen requires, the machine has difficulty in getting the temperature right.
The consensus now is that cold fill only is more energy efficient.

[sddsddean]

However, making them more energy efficient means they take longer. We had to get a new washer just before Xmas and the wash that used to take about an hour in our old machine now takes 2 1/2 hours!! Thats progress?!

[KARL]

I have totally free hot water which I can arrange to be at top temperature at the machine - all it needs to do is regulate the intake. The machine starts cold so total/final temperature will be lower than the intake and it is only at the start that it would take in hot water, rinses being cold. Any heating up by electricity has two implications, one financial and the other environmental. The main question is whether any hot fill machine will appropriately use the hot water and neither disregard it.or over-use it and end up at too high a temperature.