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springbulb81 | 04:57 Fri 26th Oct 2007 | Law
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I was recently stopped on the road doing 80mph in a 30 zone. I have no insurance, tax or M.O.T. I passed my test 6 moths ago and bought a cheap car but could not afford to buy any of these things.

I dont believe you need insurance of M.O.T as long as you drive carefully. I am due in court next week can anyoe please tell me what punishment I can expect to get I;m a little worried I might lose my licence?
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Please tell me this is a wind up.

In the UK insurance and MOT is mandatory, not an option.

You will get banned from driving and a fine.

No insurance - 6 or 8 points, and a fine up to �5000.
No Mot - fine up to �1000
Speeding - between 3 and 6 points, a fine up to �1000 and disqualification if more than 30mph over the limit.

As you passed your test less than 2 years ago you will revert to learner status when the disqualification ends.

You will have to take the theory test, the practical test and display L plates and be accompanied until you do.

You either have a very strange sense of humour if this is a wnd up, or you are incredibly stupid.
and your idea of driving carefully is doing 80MPH in a 30MPH zone???? your deserve the book thrown at you never mind a ban!
What's an MOT got to do with driving carefully ? So your brakes could be faulty and you knock down and kill a child !! I hope you get a jail sentence for your stupidity. You're just selfish....if you can't afford it then keep off the roads.
You poor soul. It's not fair that there are so many jobsworths out there ready to punish conscientious objectors like yourself when they should be out catching law breakers.

When you do go to court stand up for your rights. Refuse to recognise the court. Tell the police and magistrate exactly what you think of them. You'll end up in prison but that's a small price to pay for sticking to your beliefs.
got to be a wind up.

If not, bye bye licence.

Oh and please tell the judge your theory on MOTs, i reckon you may just have changed the world for the better with that idea, why didnt anyone think of it before.

PS, driving carefully isnt 80 in a 30 so youd need an MOT anyway :)
Back to your colouring in....
Wind up. It's school holiday time again.
Bye bye license! hello H M PRISON!!!
You'll defo loose your licence, you deserve prison but you might get some Community Serve!!
Have Fun!
Let us know what you get?
oh yes, no-one ever comes back to tell us the outcomes.


oh, maybe they cant..................................
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firstly it's not a wind up. I realise it was silly but dont think I deserve to lose my licence! Next time I'll make sure I've got at least an M.O.T.

and the road i was driving on was not a busy high street it was a quite residentual area.

If it's not a wind up, they need to consider testing basic levels of IQ before passing people - you'd obviously fail.
If you dont attend the court - then they will let you off as it would be against your human rights to have an MOT and insurance. So long as you keep your speed below 100 (other than on motorways of course) then they will know that you are a safe driver and will not bother taking things further.
Dont worry if they take your license away - you can just say that you dont believe in those either and that will be all right too.


PS Is this a wind up or are you really that stupid and irresponsible

PPS If you are as stupid and irresponsible as you appear to be - ignore this answer and just walk in future
The car will be seized and crushed as well.
I hope you lose your licence. If you cant afford MOT tax or insurance, then you shouldn't be driving. People like you are the reason why car insurance is so bloody high in the first place!
80mph in a residential area??? you get better by the second!
its a shame they only crush the cars.
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I think you are all being a bit harsh. I was fully intending to get insurance if and when I had an accident, relying on the person involved would agree to say if happened at a later date, I dont think that's so bad?

As for a M.O.T, my best friend is a mechanic and he said the car looked ok. I think it would be unfair for me to lose my licence! And they cant crush my car can they?
of course they can! they do it all the time to people who think MOTs, tax and insurance are just something that other people get.

can you post a pic when its done please?
I think springbulb is right - you are all being a bit harsh!

Don't listen to them springbulb - listen to me.

Explain to the court that if you had an accident you were going to ask the other person involved to lie about the date. This should ensure that you don't get done for the lack of insurance.

Now that's sorted, let's move onto the MOT. Get your mate to take the day off work and he can be a witness for you to explain that he thought the car looked OK.

We now need to deal with the fact that you were doing 80MPH in a 30MPH zone. I think if you repeat your earlier argument about driving carefully at 80 MPH then if you believe it strongly enough then I think you'll convince the court.

You can now walk free.
Use your day in court to highlight the injustice of your situation. If you're defending yourself it would impress the court if you dressed up with a gown and wig, you can hire them from a joke shop.

Remember you want a fair trial so you're entitled to query the independenace of the magistrate. You're entitled to ask if any of the policemen are masons. You're entitled to ask if the magistrate uses rent boys. You're entitled to reject the Bible and use the Viz Profanosaurus to swear an oath. Show them you know you're rights.

Point out that the Magna Carter is the British bill of rights and doesn't impose speed limits. Point out that MOTs and insurance are just stealth taxes and part of the nanny state.

Explain that becuase you've just passed your test then you're better prepared to be on the road than someone who passed their test years ago.

The clincher will be to invite the magistrate to go for a drive. Demonstrate how you can drive safely at 90mph, why red lights are a pointless nuisance and do this while swigging some WKD. A couple of do'nuts and handbrake turns in the court car park would help.

Let us all know how you get on. Am sure they'll give you access to t'internet in prison.

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