Cilla

[dave50]

An thoroughly enjoyable series with an excellent performance by Sheridan Smith. However last night's episode was spoilt by the seen at the secret gay club showing men kissing and groping each other. It wasn't necessary to be so graphic, especially as there were probably a lot of elderly people watching it as the subject is from their era. In fact it made my stomach turn, if I had been watching it with my elderly mother I would have been embarrassed. Of course now I will be accused of being homophobic but i don't really care. Anyone out there agree with me (if you dare).

[ummmm]

No I don't agree.

[ivor4781]

it was because Epstein had a big part to play in Cillas life and he was gay,
"groping and kissing" graphic! possibly for you but i didn't bat an eye lid

[Cloverjo]

I haven't seen it yet, but I'd be equally embarrassed, if I were watching with my mother, by seeing a heterosexual couple having sex.

[naomi24]

I don’t watch it, but I do think some of the stuff on television is unnecessarily graphic. I remember the scene from the Omar Sharif movie, “Doctor Zhivago” where he got together with Julie Christie and the camera spanned off through the window to a field of daffodils blowing in the wind. Without being shown, or embarrassed in any way, we all knew what he and she were up to.

[Cloverjo]

I think there's a scene in a film with Michael Caine, possibly Alfie, where you don't actually see anything, but the implications are there and I'm glad I wasn't watching with anyone else at the time. It involved a rocking chair I think.

[ummmm]

It was just some snogging. That's all.

[naomi24]

Scrivens, //the blinkered 'elderly people watching it' that you refer to, need to have their eyes finally opened to what was happening under their noses in the 60's. //

Why do they?

[vulcan42]

Scrivens, I grew up in the sixties and we knew exactly what was going on. Why do you think we were so naive?

[naomi24]

Scrivens, Clearly that's your opinion, but you've not explained the rationale behind it.

[jennyjoan]

going back to Sheridan Smith - I thought she sung fabulously - maybe better than Cilla herself.

[jennyjoan]

young people then 1960s era were blinkered as they never knew much about gay people. I for one didn't - never would have occurred to me at all.

[Retrochic]

''it was because Epstein had a big part to play in Cillas life and he was gay,''

So?.........there were lots of straight people in cillas life but the produces did not feel it necessary to show them in heterosexual sex scenes. I think it was overdone and unnecessary to the plot. We saw he was in a Gay club, we know what he was there for, what happened in the club added nothing to the story line and I thought detracted from what is a really good series. No I'm not homophobic in the least, but don't need to be shown what goes on , I can use my imagination if need be.

[Retrochic]

I think Scrivens is on a mission to get his jelly baby back.

[tamborine]

Watching with my young grandsons would be more cringeworthy.

[tigerlelly]

Epstein died of a drugs overdose - whether accidental or not perhaps the scene was put in to show that he was a bit unstable even then. However, a bit gratuitous if the prog. doesn't get as far as the overdose.
By the way, those of us who lived through the 60s are only in our 60s or early 70s now and not all of us have brains that have turned to mush and a bit of a kiss and grope is hardly likely to bother us much.

[-Talbot-]

I agree dave50, My first thought was I hope no one is watching this with their elderly mother.

I played Cilla's songs on youtube after the program finished, no wonder she never made many records...truly awful singing voice.