Harold Shipman Documentary

[Smowball]

Apart from being utterly gobsmacked at how many people he murdered, they’ve just said he was 56 when he was convicted. Am shocked - he looked at least 15 years older. And it still hasn’t said why he killed all those people.

[Sqad]

Jack...before radiotherapy and chemotherapeutic agents, patients in severe pain were given a large bottle of Brompton's Cocktail and told to have a "swig" whenever necessary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brompton_cocktail

[NoMercy]

That sounds lovely, Sqad. Do they sell it in Carrefour? ;)

[Jackdaw33]

That's the stuff which finished off George V, although his was administered by injection.

[Jackdaw33]

I think it's a mixture of heroin and cocaine so unlikely to be available at your local Aldi or Lidl.

[murraymints]

lol Jack !

[Sqad]

LOL......

[Peter Pedant]

yeah I found it less compelling - an hour on how he zeroed lots of people.

History is being re written before our very eyes - some of it in this column. But it was a prog so the director was allowed to stress some things and 'forget' others. Moved to a single practice across the road from the Brookdale his old practice. Dobbed in by the second signer ( Dr X - "by the time he finds out what I have done I will be dead from cancer")

Very popular with his patients - I overheard on the train the secretary of the practice telling open mouthed travellers about her interview with the police.

I initially thought it was a plot from Corro. - He had poisoned a patient during working hours, closed the door and got on with his surgery and then told the astounded staff that a patient had passed away in cubicle 2 !

The inquiry with Dame doo-dah said - oh I know ! revalidate everyone and then we will know the mass nurderers who may lairk amongst us
( excuse me what did Dame do - daah say ?)
Yup boys and gurlz the GMC said that the revalidation exercise they now run at great and useless expense would detect murderers ) -

some of this is denied by the Great and Good who rule us in our own interests altho we dont know it

The Pontefract episode filmed in the ruined hospital - was ruined at the time of the inquiry
So Dame Doo-dah heard the stories of the nurses:
"he stood at the bottom of the ward and looked like thunder - he acted like Black nick himself and I knew there murder in his heart!"

and the Good Dame said - right on! I will put him down for another 125 - is that OK?

forward forward with medical regulation !

[Peter Pedant]

also has peppermint and a bidda ether
Sqad you remember the formulation surely ?

Lots of money spent the year later on looking at doctors who sign A lot of Death Certificates
[surely they are the ones that have old peoples homes on their books?]
Yup- it was predicted by the then president of the GMC one Donald Irvine ( not a lord altho he spent ALL his time doing what the govt said) that the number of mass murderers might be as high as 2% - he didnt know so lets see !

and yes all of them had old peoples homes on their books and none were mass murderers and as a high mortality stat that would filter suspicious doctors - it was absolutely useless - but hey that didnt stop the reformers sayuing the reforms were bound to do this and that

all DCs from GPs in Manch are bounced to the coroner now by the way....

[Jackdaw33]

Bit early in the day to take to the bottle, PP.

[EDDIE51]

Apparently he is very popular in prison.The other inmates value his opinion far more than those of the prison doctors.

[Jackdaw33]

As he committed suicide 14 years ago so that his wife could claim his pension I hardly think he is still dispensing wise advice.

[Sqad]

Eddie he's dead.

[anneasquith]

Maybe he visits the cells at night !!!!!

[EDDIE51]

Yes sorry, I meant he WAS very popular in prison. The other inmates would seek his diagnosis rather than trust the prison doctor.

[murraymints]

I'd read that too Eddie...

[naomi24]

Eddie, I expect you meant 'valued' too..... but how do you know?

[Jackdaw33]

Apparently he hanged himself in prison because if he had lived beyond 65 his wife could not claim his pension.

[EDDIE51]

naomi, there were newspaper stories about how the other prisoners queued up to ask for his diagnosis. They said that despite his crimes the other prisoners still valued his diagnosis /opinion above those of the prison doctors.

[anneasquith]

Like a second opinion ?

[bednobs]

"LOL....maybe! maybe" Murray......but in the eyes of the Law, there is no difference."
what about the doctrine of double effect?