What Do You Think About This?

[Theblip]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8655351/BBC-considering-dropping-Rule-Britannia-Land-Hope-Glory-Night-Proms.html

[ToraToraTora]

the ABBC, nuff said!

[dannyk13]

More ridiculous PC.

[andy-hughes]

I am utterly opposed to any action caused by 'potential offence' from anywhere.

If something is traditional, which this is, and has been for centuries, it should remain immune to the changing fads in social consciousness.

The broadcast should go ahead as normal, and if anyone is 'offended', then that issue can be addressed afterwards with proper debate.

The idea of giving power to unelected and non-representative agitators on the basis that they 'might be offended' is bowing to mob rule and it is not acceptable.

[ToraToraTora]

I have a system when it comes to watching TV, if I don't like it I don't watch it, simples!

[pixie374]

Actually, andy, I totally disagree that "tradition" is ever an excuse to continue with something irrelevant. However, in this case, it seems totally harmless and certainly sounds better than the God Save the Queen dirge.

[mushroom25]

// If something is traditional, which this is, and has been for centuries... //

to be awfy picky, the Henry Wood Promenade Concerts were inaugurated in 1895, and taken over by the BBC in 1927.

This year's conductor, Dalia Stasevska, is said to be a BLM supporter. doubtless she - and the orchestra - will be taking the knee during the last night performance.

[Bazile]

Is it now time for everyone on here who thinks the BBC is a left wing and whatever else organisation to withold paying their licence in.protest ?

[pixie374]

Bazile... you only have to pay for it, if you decide to watch it. It's your choice.

[Bazile]

That doesn't negate my suggestion

[Gromit]

Bazile

Just don’t watch the BBC is a sufficient protest. You are required by law to have a license to watch live broadcasts from the UKs 200+ brodcasters.

[margarettom]

I'm only surprised these two pieces have lasted this long, with all the PC rubbish around these days.
It's not just the BBC though, there's Sky and Channel 4 who embrace all the PC dogma with equal fervour. However, there are lots of other non-mainstream which are great to watch and these are what I pay my TV license for.

[New Judge]

//Bazile... you only have to pay for it, if you decide to watch it. It's your choice.//

If by "it" you mean the BBC, Pixie, then that is incorrect. You have to pay for a TV Licence (almost all the fees from which go to the BBC) whether you watch the BBC or not. You must have a TV licence if you:

- watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel

- watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)

You may never watch, record or stream any BBC programmes but you must still pay to fund it. It's like only reading the Daily Telegraph but also have to pay to produce the Daily Mirror (or the other way round, depending how you look at it).

[pixie374]

No, I know, NJ. I spoke to them myself after realising I have only watched Netflix, Prime and YouTube in months and the Licensing people told me themselves, I don't need one. It is a choice, if you want the service, pay. If not, don't. It isn't actually a tax for owning a TV, which is pretty much how I had always thought of it.

[Bazile]

//...It's like only reading the Daily Telegraph but also have to pay to produce the Daily Mirror (or the other way round, depending how you look at it).//

That's indeed my point NJ

[Gromit]

NJ,
If you know want to fund the BBC, then don’t watch live TV. Nearly everything is streamed not live, so you can watch plenty of television without having a licence - I do.

[Gromit]

* If you do not want to fund the BBC...

[KARL]

Would contributors please support my education:

Packing into a concert hall, and paying to do so, with flags to wave and joining in singing blatantly nationalistic ("proud") tunes for the spiritual experience, feeling the surge of "pride" through the veins, goose bumps and all, is admirable, to be defended and supported forever more.

On the other hand, arguing for a nation and land which was/were subsumed centuries ago to regain independence because they are unhappy, simply just want to do their own thing, is not just crass and/or moronic even but actually among the worst tendencies imaginable, unless one concedes that it may not be any worse than Nazism. Nazi rallies of course having been entirely different in nature, in no way at all (not the slightest smidgeon even) like singing Rule Britannia flag in hand.

I have difficulty reconciling the above contrast and actually see it as a contradiction.

[iluvmargie]

Disgusted, but not surprised. They'll probably ask the audience to wear hair shirts and self flagellate at the end of the evening instead - that should keep everyone happy!

[pixie374]

Lol. Love a bit of hysteria :-)

[Mamyalynne]

It will be a very different Proms this year anyway, no packed crowds,reduced orchestra and choir sizes and filmed by robotic cameras.

Perhaps this year may be the time to try a change and see how it goes.