Pete Docherty on Jonathon Ross

[Ric.ror]

What is the general opinion. I could have cried. I think Mr Ross was touched too

[Snappy]

I changed my mind about him. He seemed dead nice, i dint think he'd be so quiet and softly spoken. Quite childlike actually

[Ric.ror]

Yes he was and I really hope he is not a lost cause

[annavc]

I obviously didn't get the same impression - he still looked doped up to the eyeballs - his pupils were huge! I do not understand why this talentless waste of space gets so much attention!

[Ric.ror]

The thing that touched me was that he seemed doped up to the eyeballs BUT he did not want to be. I hope he manages to kick it as that is what he wants

[Mattk]

is it ? hes had enough chances and should of been punished a long time back for his own good as much as anything else.

i think hes a total waste of space but lets hope he proves me wrong.

[electricblue]

he's just working it,,,
telling people what he knows people want to hear,
i'd like to be wrong but in all honesty he is quite happy being a junkie!!!

[4getmenot]

I'm sorry hasnt changed my mind at all. I've had close friends on drugs and you begin to realise theres only so many chances you can give them. Doherty will never change.

[The Big Gill]

Has anyone actually said they like his music (post-Libertines)? Can you remember the tune he played?

[neenynanu]

I didn't see it, but whatever else you say I just think there is no WAY you can say he is talentless. Listen to the Libertines - read the lyrics. He and Carl were a heart breakingly brilliant team.

I just feel sorry for him that he's gone and thrown it all away -just cos you're daft enough to get addicted to something though doesn't make you an awful person.

[4getmenot]

The only time I ever heard was at live 8 and from that performance I have made my mind up that he is talentless. And the biggest waste of space.

[SaxyJag]

I'm not very savvy, and that was the first time I had seen or heard Pete Docherty (heard of him of course). I can't be the only forty-something female who just wanted to give him a great big hug.

Drug addiction is a terrible thing. Getting hooked isn't something that people do voluntarily. It's like a black hole that they don't see, for various reasons, and by the time they start to get sucked in, it's too late.

It can (and has) destroyed some of the finest creative and theatrical talents around. We shouldn't criticise or dismiss this lad for being an (ex)addict. Instead we should support him and others like him for having the gumption to do something about the situation.

[4getmenot]

saxyjagg yes all addicts need support but as I've learned through trying to help addicts they can only have so many chances and surely the amount of times he's said he's getting off it then the following weeks he's arrested for drug offences lets us make our own minds up. He needs to be able to help himself before anyone else can

[The Big Gill]

I think that's what he's playing on. The music leaves me cold - and it doesn't seem that anyone else is interested in it. So what's left? What's his appeal now? I think it's the image of a lost boy, who can sing a little, with big, sad eyes, that some people want to mother / rescue.

[SaxyJag]

I'm sorry, 4getmenot, but this is part of drug addiction, and it's a part many people fail to understand. Getting clean and then falling again many times over is part and parcel of the addiction. The mind becomes so crazy and mixed up, even when it's supposedly clean, that half the time they just don't understand what they're doing. Most of the time those who could make a difference just lose patience - usually just before the addict loses his or life.

Even when addicts do manage to stay clean, the stigma that remains can be oppressive to the point of suicide. Only then do the impatient weep.

[sheffwed39]

bullshytin junky whos a waste of space and needs a good kicking. f.ck the little prikk . total wa.ker

[manure]

I've worked with drug addicts for a long time now and I think a few of you could do with volunteering in a hostel or drop-in centre and find out what really goes on before you sound off in such a judgemental manner. I've had friends who were drug and alcohol users too and most of them are doing so well, you wouldn't credit it. It doesn't matter how many tries they have, you have to be consistent and keep supporting them. I've worked with people who were referred to me as hopeless cases and we've had limitless success together. You can never tell and an open mind is essential. Its also worth telling you that 99% of drug users have had pasts I wouldn't wish on anyone and that is not just excusing them. I'm talking about true horrors; to be truthful, I'm surprised that some of them are still alive-I know i wouldn't be. Just try a little empathy.

[robbo82]

I didn't see the programme, but I hate it when people dismiss him as being a useless junkie; the Libertines' two albums are both superb, a fact acknowledged by most music critics. Hundreds of famous pop stars have had drug/alcohol problems at one time or another but have managed to get over them and forge succesful careers for themselves. Just look at the Rolling Stones, the Who, the Beach Boys, Billy Joel, Eric Clapton, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and plenty more. He needs people's support, not criticism.

[neenynanu]

Thank you Robbo82! And 4getmenot - one performance isn't enough to make a judgement on. I'm not even a massive libertines fan, I just feel there is a line you draw when you're criticising people - and calling someone talentless when they have written modern classics is crossing that line. By the time you saw Live8, Pete had long passed his best - even he has admitted it, and accepts that the drugs made his performances terrible. Doesn't mean Up the Bracket wasn't amazing.

[4getmenot]

I have worked with many drug addicts thank you and helped many so its not just something I am saying, I am speaking from experience.

[The Big Gill]

Question for anyone who has worked with drug addicts: do you believe where he is, what he's doing, is the best way for him to deal with his problem - if that's what he's trying to do?