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What is the bigger cause of accidents and death on the roads?
Speed or bad driving?
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You can't possibly nail it down to one or the other. Example: I was behind a guy today who was driving his Hyundai Accent on both sides of the road, clearly in a world of his own. Came to a T-Junction, never even slowed. Straight out forcing an innocent motorist to take evasive action. The driver of this Accent (that was nearly a Hyundai Accident) never went more...
23:51 Tue 28th Feb 2012
Geezer......please stop with the name-calling just because your cavalier attitude to roadcraft and the law has finally caught up with you.
By all means, use your own inflated sense of importance and superior skill-set when deciding whether to speed, or not, at whatever time of day or night, and on whatever road.......but at least have the cajones to take any penalty for doing so like a man instead of whining about it!
By all means, use your own inflated sense of importance and superior skill-set when deciding whether to speed, or not, at whatever time of day or night, and on whatever road.......but at least have the cajones to take any penalty for doing so like a man instead of whining about it!
The major cause of accidents is bad driving. Speed contributes to the severity of an accident.
Example, hit a child running into the road at 20 mph and you have a bashed about child; do it at 30 mph and that child is seriously injured, possibly fatally. Do it at 40 and he/she is dead. Simple as that.
But please, let us not lose sight of the fact that, as has been said earlier, we are about the safest country in the world to drive in. That said, we still kill seven people a day on our roads. 30 years ago, that number was 17 and we had about half the number of vehicles that we have now.
Drink/drive laws, crash helmets and seat belts have all contributed to the drop, as have the major innovations in car design - crumple zones, airbags, SIPS etc.
Example, hit a child running into the road at 20 mph and you have a bashed about child; do it at 30 mph and that child is seriously injured, possibly fatally. Do it at 40 and he/she is dead. Simple as that.
But please, let us not lose sight of the fact that, as has been said earlier, we are about the safest country in the world to drive in. That said, we still kill seven people a day on our roads. 30 years ago, that number was 17 and we had about half the number of vehicles that we have now.
Drink/drive laws, crash helmets and seat belts have all contributed to the drop, as have the major innovations in car design - crumple zones, airbags, SIPS etc.
I should have added to your Question, lack of concentration, Mobiles / texting, been late, not reading the road & other drivers, hesitation, travelling too close, after a rain storm, not planning your journey or what junction to come off on a Motorway & doing a LAST MINIUTE MANOVOUR, a car that has not serviced we! ( can break down in a very hazardous place, travelling alongside a HGV on a Motorway & not making progress & getting out of the HGVs blind spot. Children / animals running out between cars, with respect the elderly, Mothers Tex ting whilst pushing prams, bikes / riders with headsets on. In summer the crazy basds on Motor bikes that think they can ride like a professional.
d9f1c7, there used to be somebody on here called R1Geeezer who contributed a lot to Motoring questions. Haven't seen him for a while and I'm guessing that he's back with a different i.d. and that jackthehat knows it.
I may be completely talking out of somewhere other than my mouth, but you never know....
I may be completely talking out of somewhere other than my mouth, but you never know....
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I do not agree with your blanket assumption. Driving at speed is a skilled activity practiced by many, Some legally, are you saying that traffic cops are bad drivers merely when they exceed some arbitrary limit? Ditto the rest of us? Do we suddenly become bad drivers when the speedo exceeds a purely arbitrary amount? I contend not.
You can't possibly nail it down to one or the other. Example: I was behind a guy today who was driving his Hyundai Accent on both sides of the road, clearly in a world of his own. Came to a T-Junction, never even slowed. Straight out forcing an innocent motorist to take evasive action. The driver of this Accent (that was nearly a Hyundai Accident) never went more than 20 mph. This is bad driving, and so is inappropriate speed for the conditions. Legal speed can still be dangerous, but as it is not practical to conduct a survey and erect appropriate signage for every inch of highway there are a lot of speed limits which are too low and also too high.
IMO the best solution is to set fire to all unmanned speed cameras and replace them with traffic officers who can evaluate everyone's driving and prosecute those whose driving fails to meet the expected standard for whatever reason, not just speed.
IMO the best solution is to set fire to all unmanned speed cameras and replace them with traffic officers who can evaluate everyone's driving and prosecute those whose driving fails to meet the expected standard for whatever reason, not just speed.
contually referring to people who think doing 90mph - 30mph over the speed limit - is very wrong (ie, all of us) as evangelists or saints, does not enhance your argument one bit, it just makes you look puerile and as though you have a chip on your shoulder - which you do.
you say you are "merely pointing out that the ire of the motoring evangelists seems focused on one or two things to the exclusion of all else when there are far more dangerous things"
no, you are not merely pointing that out - you are trying to deflect what you did by bringing up lots of other bad things too - a very old trick and asomewhat childish reaction
and even if you were 'merely pointing that out' - it is not necessary for you to point that out - its obvious and is a given - everyone knows that already.
the fact is YOUR question was about SPEEDING - nothing else ... that is the reason people are talking about speeding most.
no-one has said or is trying to say other things arent as bad or worse than speeding, but it is a large subject and you cannot include and cover every single aspect of road safety in one question - you asked about speeding so that is what people are focussing on.
fact is, NO-ONE is going to pat you on the back and say ' ah dont worry, its not that bad, it was ONLY 90mph'.
no-one
you say you are "merely pointing out that the ire of the motoring evangelists seems focused on one or two things to the exclusion of all else when there are far more dangerous things"
no, you are not merely pointing that out - you are trying to deflect what you did by bringing up lots of other bad things too - a very old trick and asomewhat childish reaction
and even if you were 'merely pointing that out' - it is not necessary for you to point that out - its obvious and is a given - everyone knows that already.
the fact is YOUR question was about SPEEDING - nothing else ... that is the reason people are talking about speeding most.
no-one has said or is trying to say other things arent as bad or worse than speeding, but it is a large subject and you cannot include and cover every single aspect of road safety in one question - you asked about speeding so that is what people are focussing on.
fact is, NO-ONE is going to pat you on the back and say ' ah dont worry, its not that bad, it was ONLY 90mph'.
no-one
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