What is the bigger cause of accidents and death on the roads?

[d9f1c7]

Speed or bad driving?

[Davethedog]

JNO "overtaking (or "undertaking") is a manoeuvre involving leaving your lane to pass someone. If you pass them without changing lanes you're not overtaking. If there's someone in the outside lane doing 40 and you're doing 70 in the middle lane, just stay there, it's legal"

If you pass them without changing lanes you're not overtaking. HaHaHa

Next time your on a motorway amd see a police car try it. Undertaking is illegal and if you think your scenario is correct your a very bad driver

[Davethedog]

Jno sorry thats rude don't mean it like that. :-(

[jno]

Dave, passing on the left isn't illegal, as far as I know (the highway code advises against it, but that's not a law).

Is there a law somewhere I've missed?

I've never seen a police car daft enough to be driving at 40 in the outside line (in free-flowing traffic) but I'd pass it.

[top_driver]

it is illegal to stay on the outside lane unless you are overtaking, speed is not bad driving, inappropriate speeding, going beyond the physical handling of your car, i mean if the theory that bad driving is speeding, then all racing drivers are bad drivers, see, it's just stupid to say that,. i would consider bad driving is also driving sooo as in crawling slow because you are afraid to get a little scratch on your car from the wind or something ridiculous, or nervous driving is bad driving, most drivers are clueless anyway

my question to you d9f1c7, why have you posted this question, could it be to make yourself feel better about being caught speeding, because all the stick you got on your last post, which was uncalled for anyway, you have some kind of uncertainty about the whole thing,

[joko]

Davethe Dog - am afraid you are very wrong on that one - JNO is correct

merely travelling faster than traffic to your right is NOT undertaking - that is not any sort of manouvre - it is just travelling in a faster moving lane.
the speed limit is the same for all 3 lanes, regardless of what speed the people on your right are travelling at...

undertaking is when for instance, you are travelling in the middle lane, but someone is blocking you from over taking in the right hand lane, so you try to go round the car in front by going into the left hand lane, passing them and then moving back into the middle lane

undertaking is basically performing the manouvre of overtaking but on the left instead of the right

it is a common misonception though, you are not the only one who thinks this.

it is probably the cause of a lot of needless accidents too...people 'hovering' just behind the car on their right because they erroneously believe its undertaking, so then get impatient and try to go round them...