Gay marriages to be made legal.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....gal-Britain-2015.html

/// At present, gays and lesbians are allowed to enter civil partnerships, which offer most of the legal protections of marriage. But the term ‘marriage’ is not used.///

In a time when more important matters should be on politicians minds, why is the term 'Marriage' that important to homosexuals, that politicians find the need to change the law, specially to accommodate them?

[sir.prize]

//It's not all about religion and begetting and the law!!!!//
Totally agree LoftyLottie.

[LoftyLottie]

I'm fine. Like you not on quite as much these days. I have the odd long bursts on AB.

[sir.prize]

Well, mighty, we are not happy this morning are we? Boing boing!

[joeluke]

Sqad 'straight men, on the whole, are less tolerant of homosexuality.'

......and the ones who are 'tolerant' of it are so because they have to be seen to be (wife wouldn't approve, friend/family member/work colleague is gay etc)

[RATTER15]

Joeluke, you really do post some absolute childish nonsense sometimes!!!

[Kromovaracun]

"and the ones who are 'tolerant' of it are so because they have to be seen to be"

I can see how much you'd really like this to be true - how it would be comforting for you if it was. Alas, I'm afraid like most arguments based purely on comfort, it is a delusion.

[ummmm]

Lol Joeluke....lol.

[anotheoldgit]

200 plus postings wow! well it would seem that gay matters are very popular on AnswerBank and not a sign of sp1814.

docspock

You took a little bit of flack Doc, but it seems one is not allowed certain personal opinions on here, and anyone who steps off the PC wagon is right in trouble.

Having said that however I also do not condone, the use of the word ‘defect’ when referring to homosexuals.

[anotheoldgit]

jachthehat

/// At the end of the ceremony, the heterosexual couple receive a certificate stating that they are 'Married' and the gay couple get a certificate stating that they have entered into a Civil Partnership. ///

So it is only a matter of the wording then?

Will those who are already in a Civil Partnership have to receive another certificate stating that they are married?

All seems a great amount of trouble over nothing.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// I would probably refer to my 'wife' were my partner and I to get married ///

Why are you so concerned over this when you yourself are not even in a Civil Partnership?

[bednobs]

i sometimes think it might be much easier (and less stroke-inducing for some people) to just have a poll on MANY subjects, then we all know where we stand and there wouldn't be people trying to change each others' views. So for example you wouldn't get any of this "well you would say that cause you're a soft lefty" "well if you weren't so right wing you'd think differently" nonsense that goes on over many posts.
I propose 4 polls that would effectively render this section useless
1) do you approve of gays. Yes/No
2) Do you approve of muslims. Yes/NO
3) are you left or right wing. Left/Right
4) Do you approve of people from other countries coming to live in this country. Yes/No
And there you have it -no need for lengthy discussions (which just go along the lines of yes/no but with many more words, but are essentially saying the same thing). No need for people to get all het up and upset. SOrted!

[anotheoldgit]

redhelen

/// my husband refers to me as his partner as that is what I am - to say wife sounds like he owns me ///

It sounds like it is you that demands he calls you his partner, but I notice that you call him your ‘Husband’ so what’s the difference?

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// 'Heterosexual Marriage'...the union of one man and one woman, *for life*....? ///

I wonder how many gay relationships are for life, whether in a Civil Partnership or not?

[whiskeryron]

jackthehat
//That's right.............there are obviously 'so many' of us that we'll make a real difference at election-time............oh, hang on, that's wrong......we're a tiny minority........d'oh, I'm confused, which are we, again?//
I'm very happy with your point's of view & love you to bits ( only in print tell your missus)

Ron.

[naomi24]

I don't understand the references to divorce. What does that have to do with it?

[jackthehat]

1. No, it's not merely a matter of the wording. A CP seems so much more business-like; stripped of love and romance....simply 'practical'.
2. I can't see the Government missing an opportunity to squeeze another few bob out of people, so I believe that even those in a CP will have to undego something else to be 'married'.
3. Why are *you* so concerned over this when it will in no way affect you personally?
4. It was a question levelled at those busily trotting out the 'sanctity of traditional marriage' argument.....seems a little hypocritical of them to adjust the established goal-posts to suit their own particular arrangements whilst seeking to deny others the opportunity on the grounds that it goes against 'tradition'....

[anotheoldgit]

bednobs

I disagree, surely even you like to see peoples opinions on certain subjects, even if you do not yourself agree with their opinions?

likewise you are also have the right to post your opinions even if others disagree with them.

That is what AnswerBank is all about.

[Bobbisox]

me neither Naomi?
and divorce, anyway, is not necessarily the case for more than one marriage

[jackthehat]

I didn't actually mention divorce.....

I asked if 'certain' posters were still on their sanctified 'only' marriage given their comments about just what marriage actually is or is supposed to be.

It was NOT supposed to be a criticism or other posters/divorcees, etc.

[Kromovaracun]

"You took a little bit of flack Doc, but it seems one is not allowed certain personal opinions on here, and anyone who steps off the PC wagon is right in trouble. "

This is a total distortion. It has nothing to do with how PC doc was being (which is totally meaningless term anyway). It was to do with how well-supported or informed his views seemed to be to others. You're right to note that AB is about diversity of opinion. It's also about people pointing out the flaws in others' views - debate is utterly meaningless if you can't do that or if you're accused of being a PC enforcer when you try.